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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:04pm
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She might have done it for your own good. To keep you away from that school could be best for both parties. Just a thought.
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:06pm
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She might have done it for your own good. To keep you away from that school could be best for both parties. Just a thought.
At the school's request? Any assigner worth his/her salt would have left the schedule alone; and maybe put Toren on a varsity game for that school.
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:17pm
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At the school's request? Any assigner worth his/her salt would have left the schedule alone; and maybe put Toren on a varsity game for that school.
Sure. Acquiescing to the school's request may be best. I'd like to think that our assignors have our backs, and that doesn't solely mean sticking his/her neck out for us in a tough spot. Sometimes that can be done by preventing said official a headache.

Putting myself in Toren's shoes, I'm not sure I'd want to go back to that school.
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:20pm
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Sure. Acquiescing to the school's request may be best. I'd like to think that our assignors have our backs, and that doesn't solely mean sticking his/her neck out for us in a tough spot. Sometimes that can be done by preventing said official a headache.

Putting myself in Toren's shoes, I'm not sure I'd want to go back to that school.
I would. Coaches shouldn't be able to dictate their officials; because in situations like this, the coach has now instilled an atmosphere of fear. When word spreads that Toren was blackballed from the school for taking care of business, how many newer officials who need this assigner are going to actually take care of business.
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:25pm
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Consider it a blessing!!! How many schools will you pass to work that school? Dude this is nothing to get upset by at all. You do not want to go back there so when something else happens they can blame it on your previous incident with them.

If you have not been banned from a school in your career, you are not doing your job. I do not know how your assigning works, but an assignor around here can only control the games they assign. Funny how I get coaches on the road that do not like me in other situations like tournaments, non-conference games or playoffs.

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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:28pm
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I would. Coaches shouldn't be able to dictate their officials; because in situations like this, the coach has now instilled an atmosphere of fear. When word spreads that Toren was blackballed from the school for taking care of business, how many newer officials who need this assigner are going to actually take care of business.
I agree to a point...but let's not forget who is ultimately paying us. The school/coach needs to have some degree of control over the product they are paying for. Scratching an official or two is hardly a blackball, unless the assigner removes the official from multiple schools as a result of the initial conflict.

It's been my experience that most coaches are afraid to scratch an official from their school for fear of retaliation by other officials. I've heard this first hand in the form of: "I know you guys all talk...I don't want to draw the wrath of your fellow zebras".
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:34pm
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I agree to a point...but let's not forget who is ultimately paying us. The school/coach needs to have some degree of control over the product they are paying for. Scratching an official or two is hardly a blackball, unless the assigner removes the official from multiple schools as a result of the initial conflict.

It's been my experience that most coaches are afraid to scratch an official from their school for fear of retaliation by other officials. I've heard this first hand in the form of: "I know you guys all talk...I don't want to draw the wrath of your fellow zebras".
If you've got one official who repeatedly has issues with a coach, and that coach never has issues with other officials; address it and perhaps do so by not having that official work with that school. But one event does not warrant a blackball (which we now know is not the case here).

Reassigning for one season does seem reasonable, however. It allows enough time to lapse for all parties to get past the emotions of the game.
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:21pm
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Putting myself in Toren's shoes, I'm not sure I'd want to go back to that school.
I'm not Toren, but it's always nice to have the option to go where we want. A certified varsity official blackballed at the lower-level... C'MON MAN!!
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:40pm
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I'd like to think that our assignors have our backs, and that doesn't solely mean sticking his/her neck out for us in a tough spot.
Really? The best assigner I ever had was absolute in backing up his officials in tough spots - always. If an assigner doesn't have your back in tough situations, I don't want to be in that association.
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:47pm
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Really? The best assigner I ever had was absolute in backing up his officials in tough spots - always. If an assigner doesn't have your back in tough situations, I don't want to be in that association.
Hey man, I'm right with you. My point was, there's more than one way for an assignor to have our back, IMO.
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