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The R Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:29am

Violation?
 
Boys middle school game last night. Home team makes one of one free throw. B1 steps OOB with ball and passes to me who is standing in bounds. Ball bounces off me and stays in bounds. B1 steps in bounds and gains possession of ball.

Violation correct?

tref Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:32am

Boys middle school... I'd probably re-administer the throw-in & explain to him that officials dont need a touch after made baskets.

Scrapper1 Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:36am

I agree with tref. But strictly by rule, you are correct. The thrower-in was the first player on the court to touch the ball after releasing the throw-in pass.

bob jenkins Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:41am

[QUOTE=The R;816251to me who is standing in bounds.[/QUOTE]

Why?

BTW, I agree with re-doing the throw-in (or catching the ball and tossing it back).

The R Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:43am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 816256)
Why?

BTW, I agree with re-doing the throw-in (or catching the ball and tossing it back).

....Cheer leaders...20 to be accurate.

tref Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:44am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 816256)
Why?

Because they do it on tv :D

I had that play last Friday night in a 1 point overtime thriller... good thing I wasn't on the court.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The R (Post 816257)
....Cheer leaders...20 to be accurate.

So you worked the L on the court as well?

rockyroad Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:44am

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Originally Posted by The R (Post 816257)
....Cheer leaders...20 to be accurate.

In a Middle School game???:eek:

The R Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:46am

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 816259)
In a Middle School game???:eek:

Yes they were in my way during the 7th and 8th grade game.

I kept asking them to move and give me some room to work but once we went to the other end and back they forgot.

I only stepped on 1 foot and bumped about 5 or so.

PG_Ref Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:47am

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Originally Posted by The R (Post 816257)
....Cheer leaders...20 to be accurate.

Have game management get the cheerleader "coach" to move them out of the way.

Welpe Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:48am

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 816259)
In a Middle School game???:eek:

You'd be surprised...

The R Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:49am

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 816258)


So you worked the L on the court as well?


No when I was the L I'd work my way into the crowd and move around a little to gain some space. Since there was just one free throw I stayed one step on the court.

Welpe Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:54am

Did you consider having the cheerleaders moved off of the endline?

RookieDude Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:59am

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 816259)
In a Middle School game???:eek:

...no cut rule...;)

BTW...I'm with the "do over" in a MS game also. (Another reason to stay OOB, as L, on the throw-in.)

The R Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:05pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 816264)
Did you consider having the cheerleaders moved off of the endline?

I've never done that in a game. Have you?

How did the cheer coach take it?

Adam Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:09pm

Safety issue, get the cheerleaders moved if they won't stay out of your way. I'm a freight train compared to cheerleaders, and I remind them that if there's a collision, I'm not going to be the one to get hurt.

Freddy Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:15pm

Been There...Done That...Survived
 
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Originally Posted by The R (Post 816271)
I've never done that in a game. Have you? How did the cheer coach take it?

I did that once, much to the protest of the cheer coach who complained to her AD who told her to comply due to what was a perceived safety factor on my part as R. She got over it and they did just fine from a sideline location. :)
I shoulda done it at another location last year in the first round of the post-season tourney but didn't and was sorry for it. As new lead I turned an ankle on a cheerleaders foot and had to bear the pain of it the rest of the game and remainder of the first round of the tournament. :mad:
I'll do it again if necessary. :cool:

Welpe Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:20pm

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Originally Posted by The R (Post 816271)
I've never done that in a game. Have you?

How did the cheer coach take it?

Middle school games were the only time I've had to do it. I've never had a problem with a cheer coach when asking her if she could move her cheerleaders to a more appropriate location.

Safety is our number one concern. We need to have room to work that is unhindered by small objects shaped as children.

Camron Rust Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 816264)
Did you consider having the cheerleaders moved off of the endline?

Quote:

Originally Posted by The R (Post 816271)
I've never done that in a game. Have you?

How did the cheer coach take it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 816274)
Safety issue, get the cheerleaders moved if they won't stay out of your way. I'm a freight train compared to cheerleaders, and I remind them that if there's a collision, I'm not going to be the one to get hurt.

I've done it and will do it again. If they're in my way, they move. They're just 1 step above the other spectators. They're not necessary to the game and shouldn't be in a position to potentially interfere with or cause injury those that are. The cheer coach will not like it, but they don't have a say.

As Snaq said, you're protecting them as much as yourself. Most of us are 2x the size of some of them. If they are close to the endline but not really "too close", I make a few passes really close early in the game to get their attention and they usually stay out of the way after nearly getting run over (they were not really about to be run over...they don't know I was just firing a warning shot).

Freddy Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:50pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 816283)
. . . you're protecting them as much as yourself. Most of us are 2x the side of some of them.

. . . you're protecting yourself as much as them. Most of them are 2x the side of some of us.

fify :o

TimTaylor Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:58pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 816283)
I've done it and will do it again. If they're in my way, they move. They're just 1 step above the other spectators. They're not necessary to the game and shouldn't be in a position to potentially interfere with or cause injury those that are. They cheer coach will not like it, but they don't have a say.

As Snaq said, you're protecting them as much as yourself. Most of us are 2x the side of some of them. If they are close to the endline but not really "too close", I make a few passes really close early in the game to get there attention and they usually stay out of the way after nearly getting run over (not really but they don't know I was just firing a warning shot).

Agree. It's a safety issue. Four or five years ago I took one out while going full speed down the sideline while looking back over my shoulder covering a fast break....she picked the wrong time to lean into the court to get a better look....we hit shoulder to shoulder and she went flying. Ever since I have absolutely no qualms about having them moved if they're getting in the way.

BillyMac Tue Jan 24, 2012 08:45pm

Been There, Done That ...
 
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Originally Posted by TimTaylor (Post 816289)
I took one out while going full speed down the sideline while looking back over my shoulder covering a fast break.

That'll teach her.


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