Foul inside 0.3 seconds...

[stiffler3492]

I've always wondered about this rule. Who's to say that NOBODY can get a catch-and-shoot off in .3 seconds?

What if it happened, and it was clear that the shot was away before buzzer. Obviously a rule is a rule, and we have to enforce said rules, but do you guys think the NFHS will revisit this at all?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

I've always wondered about this rule. Who's to say that NOBODY can get a catch-and-shoot off in .3 seconds?

What if it happened, and it was clear that the shot was away before buzzer. Obviously a rule is a rule, and we have to enforce said rules, but do you guys think the NFHS will revisit this at all?

The original rule (so I've been told) was based on a study by the NBA. If those guys can't catch-and-shoot in <.3, ....

Oh yeah -- I think the NCAA ruling on the play is slightly different -- as soon as the ball is caught, the half is over. No 1-and-1 FTs.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

I've always wondered about this rule. Who's to say that NOBODY can get a catch-and-shoot off in .3 seconds?

What if it happened, and it was clear that the shot was away before buzzer. Obviously a rule is a rule, and we have to enforce said rules, but do you guys think the NFHS will revisit this at all?

1. The rules determine what counts as a try and what counts as a goal, just as they define winning and losing.

2. No goal.

3. No.

[Adam]

Enough research was done before they did the rule, I don't expect them to change it.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

I've always wondered about this rule. Who's to say that NOBODY can get a catch-and-shoot off in .3 seconds?

What if it happened, and it was clear that the shot was away before buzzer. Obviously a rule is a rule, and we have to enforce said rules, but do you guys think the NFHS will revisit this at all?

No, it's a done deal. Somebody, somewhere, did a study and decided that was a reasonable amount. If they do clearly catch and shoot before the buzzer, blame it on human reaction time if it makes you feel better. This actually happens quite often. One of my favorite calls, waving off a "good" basket and listening to the fans scream about it.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by just another ref

This actually happens quite often. One of my favorite calls, waving off a "good" basket and listening to the fans scream about it.

If this "happens quite often"...maybe it's time to do another study.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

If this "happens quite often"...maybe it's time to do another study.

Not necessarily. Maybe just an indication that timers are slow at starting the clock.

[tref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Not necessarily. Maybe just an indication that timers are slow at starting the clock.

Especially when the home team makes those shots. IJS

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Not necessarily. Maybe just an indication that timers are slow at starting the clock.

Bingo.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by just another ref

. This actually happens quite often. One of my favorite calls, waving off a "good" basket and listening to the fans scream about it.

Really?

How many times per season do you have it happen in your games?

I had it once all last season, and so far not a single time this season.

[Tio]

The OP never mentioned if it was a catch or a tap. If the basket was scored on a tap, then it counts. By rule a player cannot catch and shoot with 0.3 or less.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Tio

The OP never mentioned if it was a catch or a tap. If the basket was scored on a tap, then it counts. By rule a player cannot catch and shoot with 0.3 or less.

Do you really think he "tapped" the ball 85 feet?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Really?

How many times per season do you have it happen in your games?

I had it once all last season, and so far not a single time this season.

+1
I've never actually done it.

This season, I've only had one throw in with .3 or less.

[just another ref]

What an exaggeration! Quite often? Not at all uncommon?

Okay, I have seen it happen on more than one occasion. One thing about it, whether they know it or not, there is no pressure on the timer in this situation. A tip: It counts. A catch: Period over.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

What an exaggeration! Quite often? Not at all uncommon?

Okay, I have seen it happen on more than one occasion. One thing about it, whether they know it or not, there is no pressure on the timer in this situation. A tip: It counts. A catch: Period over.

I have never seen it happen. I think it depends on what you have seen in your experience.

Peace