Blarge
 

If the ball go in the basket on a blarge does it count or not? If the ball does not go in does the team in posession keep the ball and a double foul is called and nothing is done to the arrow?

4.19.8 SITUATION C:

A1 drives for a try and jumps and releases the ball. Contact occurs between A1 and B1 after the release and before airborne shooter A1 returns one foot to the floor. One official calls a blocking foul on B1 and the other official calls a charging foul on A1. The try is (a) successful, or (b) not successful.

RULING: Even though airborne shooter A1 committed a charging foul, it is not a player-control foul because the two fouls result in a double personal foul. The double foul does not cause the ball to become dead on the try. In (a), the goal is scored; play is resumed at the point of interruption, which is a throw-in for Team B from anywhere along the end line. In (b), the point of interruption is a try in flight; therefore the alternating-possession procedure is used. (4-36-1, 4-36-2)

If ball is released before the blarge count the basket. If its released and doesn't go in, then go to arrow.
Case Book 4.19.8 Sit C

What if it is on the floor and the blarge is called, point of interuption or AP?

This is still a DPF. See IndianaRef's post above.

MTD, Sr.

What's the rule for how to proceed from a double foul?

Why don't you call up your buddy John or maybe even Curtis and see if he can tell you?

What's the rule on "double fouls"? Hint POI

How does your comment move this dicussion forward?

MTD, Sr.

Is there an ultimate point to this thread?

Since when was that a definitive measure of whether a comment should be made?

The question had already been answered, in fact, so jake's follow up question didn't even move it forward; only backward.

Because big jake has a history of just throwing sh!t at the wall and not really showing much interest in real officiating conversations.

There is a hidden agenda to his question.

Snaqs:

I know that Billy, Mark, and I can get silly sometimes, :p. And, BadNewsRef, I am not familiar with Big Jake, so I first post was an honest attempt to answer his question.

MTD, Sr.

I realize that. I'm just waiting on big jake to tell us why is posted this. That's why I posted this:

Most of his sh!t gets thrown on the football and baseball boards...so MTD and others are probably not familiar with him and his antics.

It doesn't and it is funny at the same time.

:D

Peace

Familiar enough to use a certain board feature.

I guess I'm missing something. What hidden agenda would that be?

With him....who knows?

Have you looked at his previous posts? Kinda jumps out at you when you read them all together. ;)

I haven't. Maybe that's why I'm in the dark.

Trust me, he wasn't officiating the game nor is he trying to learn what the rule is.

He saw a game and he believes an offcial(s) screwed up and he was hoping to get some validation.

The arrow (in this situation) could be the POI.

Oh he's one of those....

I was told in a training that in a double foul situation you would go to the point on interruption. Is this wrong or do you do to the arrow???????

All double fouls go to the POI...sometimes the POI is the arrow.

Double foul, Team A in bonus, team B not. Do you go to the arrow or shho the FT for team A???????

No free throws on a double foul (personal or technical). Go to the POI always. If there is no definite team control (shot it the air, etc) then the possession arrow IS the POI.

Pete answerd this. For more examples, see the casebook at 4.19.8

Not necessarily. There are several situations with no team control where you would not use the arrow; including one where the shot is in the air.

Correct, if the shot in the air goes in the bucket. I should have stated more clearly that a shot in the air that misses, before any rebound control.

I knew what you meant, and only responded because we've had a few who misread the rule to say any time a POI situation happens without team control you should go to the arrow.

Had my first one tonight....
 

College Men's game..

...Bad news it happened....

..good news is we reported it by the book and got the heck out of there!

I will post the video clip later when gametapeexchange has it up.