Getting paid

Adam

tref wrote
RefPay is alright, I work a JUCO & a couple HS that pay in that fashion. But its generally once a month, so if you work a game early in the month you dont see a payment until the EOM. Then it takes 3 days to touch the money after transfering it from RefPay to your bank account.

Check or cash, on the spot is best!

The schools that use refpay for us pay within a week.

BktBallRef

The problem with RefPay is they are not federally insured like a bank. So if your assignor(s) send money to them, it is not protected, should they go belly up or bankrupt.

Welpe

We are paid by each school district (or by the schools for private schools).

Some districts, including the big H, are notoriously slow at cutting checks others have a quick turnaround but the average for me seems to be 30-45 days. The nice part is that since we're paid by the district, we could have several assignments on one check.

Then there is the issue of schools losing our paperwork (or a PO'd coach holding it until the very last day). It took me over a year and several phone calls to get paid for three assignments from one district.

For six man football games I work, some schools pay in cash or check on site. Those are nice but I feel a little funny when we get handed plain envelopes full of money.

BillyMac

Welpe wrote
Then there is the issue of schools losing our paperwork.

Been there. Done that. I hate it when that happens.

Eastshire

Welpe wrote
We are paid by each school district (or by the schools for private schools).

Some districts, including the big H, are notoriously slow at cutting checks others have a quick turnaround but the average for me seems to be 30-45 days. The nice part is that since we're paid by the district, we could have several assignments on one check.

Then there is the issue of schools losing our paperwork (or a PO'd coach holding it until the very last day). It took me over a year and several phone calls to get paid for three assignments from one district.

For six man football games I work, some schools pay in cash or check on site. Those are nice but I feel a little funny when we get handed plain envelopes full of money.

Which, of course, goes to the reason why we shouldn't start any game without having first received payment for the match. Coaches should not have a lever to plant the question of "Will I get paid if I make this call" into the minds of the officials.

In the auditing world, an independent audit cannot be done by a CPA firm that you are not current with because it compromises their independence. It's no different in sports.

The youth soccer league here in NW Ohio has a firm rule: any match where the referee crew is not paid in full in cash before the match is to be declared no contest and shall not be played.

JMUplayer

As a general rule this is the easiest that our association follows... we bill the schools at the end of the month and then we usually have our checks from them in two weeks then the checks get mailed to the officials in/around the 20th.
Example... Dec Games you get paid Jan 20th
Jan Games you get paid Feb 20th.

BillyMac

amusedofficial wrote
Getting paid.

Hey? When do the tax questions start? I bought a new black belt this year.

Welpe

BillyMac wrote
I bought a new black belt this year.

Forget the taxes, go buy yourself some Sansabelts!

refiator

For GHSA games, we have to wait until the season ends. We bill each school, they pay us, and we distribute checks at an end of year banquet. 1099, yes, which stinks, but I prefer one lump payment because I don't just blow the money week by week. One nice big check to use for summer vacation.... I use rec league games for "mad money"....but I rarely even do these anymore. Too many hotheads and headaches.

Camron Rust

refiator wrote
For GHSA games, we have to wait until the season ends. We bill each school, they pay us, and we distribute checks at an end of year banquet. 1099, yes, which stinks, but I prefer one lump payment because I don't just blow the money week by week. One nice big check to use for summer vacation.... I use rec league games for "mad money"....but I rarely even do these anymore. Too many hotheads and headaches.

Why does a 1099 stink? You owe the taxes on your income even if you don't get a 1099. Or are you saying you cheat on your taxes whenever you don't get a 1099?

BillyMac

Camron Rust wrote
Why does a 1099 stink?

W-9's are so common here in my little corner of Connecticut that many of us carry precompleted W-9's with us in our bags. When a site director hands us a W-9 to fill out, we simply whip out one our own completed forms, sign it, date it, and hand it back to him.

The days of being handed an envelope with currency, and some loose change, are long gone.

BillyMac

Welpe wrote
Forget the taxes, go buy yourself some Sansabelts!

Shut up.

Rich

Camron Rust wrote
Why does a 1099 stink? You owe the taxes on your income even if you don't get a 1099. Or are you saying you cheat on your taxes whenever you don't get a 1099?

You know that's exactly what he's saying. I wonder what percentage of officials don't bother claiming this income on their taxes.

I don't get a 1099 from more than a handful of places (where I'm poaid centrally and make over $600 a year), but I keep track very carefully of all my officiating income and faithfully fill out my Schedule C every year. By the time I factor in allowable deductions, I barely make anything. But if I ever get audited, I have everything documented.

grunewar

So, I'm one of the only ones who gets paid at the end of the season or tournament?

I've gotten paid in cash exactly ONE time.

Wow. Interesting to me!

mbyron

grunewar wrote
So, I'm one of the only ones who gets paid at the end of the season or tournament?

Yes. I get a check from each school, 2-30 days after the context.

buckrog64

Private school: Usually paid at the assignment. Public school: name is turned in and payment is usually within a week or so. In the meantime, here's a Snickers Bar...

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buckrog64 wrote
Private school: Usually paid at the assignment. Public school: name is turned in and payment is usually within a week or so. In the meantime, here's a Snickers Bar...

Love those Snickers AND their commercials. (particularly the one from way back...great googly moogly!)

refiator

Camron Rust wrote
Why does a 1099 stink? You owe the taxes on your income even if you don't get a 1099. Or are you saying you cheat on your taxes whenever you don't get a 1099?

Seriously? 😮

BillyMac

refiator wrote
Seriously?

Yes. Seriously.

Camron Rust, and I, I'm proud to say, are not tax cheats. I claim every single penny that I make officiating. I also claim every single deduction, and every single mile that I travel. Why should the government get a percentage of the black belt that I purchased for my officiating?

Camron, and I, are among the estimated 80% of Americans who do not cheat on their taxes. If you want to be a part of the other 20% then go right ahead and cheat. I didn't have the privilege of serving in the military, but I make sure to make informed choices when I vote, and I vote in every single election, I display my flag on every national holiday, and I never purposely cheat on my taxes. That's the least that I can do to be a good citizen in this wonderful country of ours. I'm proud to be an American, warts and all.

bainsey

BillyMac wrote
W-9's are so common here in my little corner of Connecticut that many of us carry precompleted W-9's with us in our bags.

There's a paperless option.

Scan a completed W-9 into a PDF file. When you work a new school, simply email that attachment to the athletic director. His/her email is always there on Arbiter.

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