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Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 04:19am
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Score it. The closest I could get to freeze-framing had one hand on, one off with clock showing 1 sec still. Next frame advance had release and zeros. If there were tenths of seconds on clock, I'm guessing replay would show ball released before zeros.

Dude was guessing. And if you're guessing, count it. According to scoreboard, would've sent game into overtime.

Must've had a real hot date or some special dinner waiting for him...
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Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 07:39am
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Score it. The closest I could get to freeze-framing had one hand on, one off with clock showing 1 sec still. Next frame advance had release and zeros. If there were tenths of seconds on clock, I'm guessing replay would show ball released before zeros.

Dude was guessing. And if you're guessing, count it. According to scoreboard, would've sent game into overtime.

Must've had a real hot date or some special dinner waiting for him...
Are you a coach? Cause your last line is nothing other than a rat/coach thing to say.

Whatever call is made there is the right call. It's that close, especially without tenths on the clock. The only thing I agree on is that the covering official must call that right away.

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Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 08:40am
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Must've had a real hot date or some special dinner waiting for him...
Or maybe he just had the stones to make the right call.

Good call, ball was still in the right hand when the buzzer went. As the others have said, I would prefer to see an immediate whistle. Why are the C's partners hanging around looking confused? Get off the floor!
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Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 09:13am
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Agree with the growing consensus: good call, bad mechanic.
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Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 09:15am
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Can't tell from the slo-mo, because there's no sound. On the real speed, I'd count it, but it's close.
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Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 09:33am
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Or maybe he just had the stones to make the right call.

Good call, ball was still in the right hand when the buzzer went. As the others have said, I would prefer to see an immediate whistle. Why are the C's partners hanging around looking confused? Get off the floor!
Because they're wondering what the hell the C is going to call. I don't blame them at all.
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Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:11am
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First time watching it was on my iPod Touch. I waived it off.

Now watching it full screen on my desktop, I'm definitely counting it. I wonder if there wasn't an AV timing issue though, because I clearly had the buzzer sounding just after the ball hit the backboard.

Count it and let the excitement of overtime decide the winner!
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Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:12am
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Because they're wondering what the hell the C is going to call. I don't blame them at all.
OK but the L is still standing there after the C signals and the camera pans back to him.
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Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:30am
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Were it my call without replay, I would have counted the basket! Not saying the official was wrong, but that's my opinion.
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Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:11pm
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When I saw this video last night I was wondering why the C comes all the way tableside to wave that basket off? We don't do a lot of three man out here until postseason but table crews know to watch the center for his/her count it/wave off signal.To me coming all the way over and pausing before waving it off insults the table crew's intelligence and eyesight.Unless you are going to ask for help give the wave off/count it signal,grab your jacket (shake hands with your table crew if situation allows) and get out.Does anyone think he left his partners in a precarious spot if there was a storming of the court? I thought at speed he barely got it away before the clock struck triple 0.
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Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:57am
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Dude was guessing. And if you're guessing, count it.
I believe this is true. I believe you must have definite knowledge that a release was late.

When I looked at the embeded video, I was certain this was good, but after looking at the OP's link, I'm not so sure. The audio synchs on these uploads play a huge role in these discussions.

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Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:09pm
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You guys with plenty of experience - does the score influence your decision on this? You would think that if it really is a 50/50 call, the one that would result in a tie would be favored. That way the kids can still decide the outcome?
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You guys with plenty of experience - does the score influence your decision on this? You would think that if it really is a 50/50 call, the one that would result in a tie would be favored. That way the kids can still decide the outcome?
The score has no influence on any decision I make in these situations. I call what I see and I try to get into a best position to make the call appropriately. Not sure what you mean by "That way the kids decide the outcome." The kids are deciding the outcome, I am just making the right call to the best of my abilities.

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Old Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:21pm
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The score has no influence on any decision I make in these situations. I call what I see and I try to get into a best position to make the call appropriately. Not sure what you mean by "That way the kids decide the outcome." The kids are deciding the outcome, I am just making the right call to the best of my abilities.

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the score has no influence on any decision i make in these situations. I call what i see and i try to get into a best position to make the call appropriately. Not sure what you mean by "that way the kids decide the outcome." the kids are deciding the outcome, i am just making the right call to the best of my abilities.

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