Zoochy A1 gets fouled in the process of throwing the ball towards the wrong basket. The ball goes in the basket. Partner says to count the basket. I say NO basket. He says "I think you are wrong".. I tell him "The difference between you and I is that, you think I am wrong and I know I am correct!" He won't let it go, so he bets me dinner and shakes hands. Then tells me he likes steak! After the game I get out the case book and read him case 4.41.2. He is still in denial. The other partner laughs and tells him he owes me dinner.
Rob1968 Zoochy wroteA1 gets fouled in the process of throwing the ball towards the wrong basket. The ball goes in the basket. Partner says to count the basket. I say NO basket. He says "I think you are wrong".. I tell him "The difference between you and I is that, you think I am wrong and I know I am correct!" He won't let it go, so he bets me dinner and shakes hands. Then tells me he likes steak! After the game I get out the case book and read him case 4.41.2. He is still in denial. The other partner laughs and tells him he owes me dinner. You're in for a treat! I understand that Missouri has some great steakhouses!
BktBallRef letemplay wroteDid the ball go in the basket before or after(most likely) the foul? "A1 gets fouled in the process of throwing the ball towards the wrong basket." That means the foul occurred while he was throwing the ball, not after it went in the basket.
just another ref BktBallRef wrote"A1 gets fouled in the process of throwing the ball towards the wrong basket." That means the foul occurred while he was throwing the ball, not after it went in the basket. You don't know that. He could have been an airborne (non) shooter returning to the floor after a layup or finger roll.
Scrapper1 just another ref wroteYou don't know that. He could have been an airborne (non) shooter returning to the floor after a layup or finger roll. In that case, the ball would become dead as soon as the ball passed through the basket. So the contact would be ignored unless intentional or flagrant.
just another ref Scrapper1 wroteIn that case, the ball would become dead as soon as the ball passed through the basket. So the contact would be ignored unless intentional or flagrant. Right. My point was that it was uncertain from the OP exactly when/where the contact took place.
Scrapper1 just another ref wroteRight. My point was that it was uncertain from the OP exactly when/where the contact took place. I guess my only point is that it doesn't matter when foul occurred, because it can't be a shooting foul. And it can't even be a personal foul if the ball has already gone through the basket.
just another ref Scrapper1 wroteI guess my only point is that it doesn't matter when foul occurred, because it can't be a shooting foul. And it can't even be a personal foul if the ball has already gone through the basket. And my only point was, though unlikely, the goal could count.
Scrapper1 BillyMac wroteNot even if the team's in the bonus? I don't think that's a shooting foul, by most people's vocab. A shooting foul is best understood as a foul committed while the opponent is in the act of shooting.
just another ref Here's something to think about. You see your teammate throw toward the other team's basket, if the ball is about to go in, foul the nearest opponent. No basket and no free throws. Yes, I know, unless it is intentional or flagrant.
eyezen just another ref wroteHere's something to think about. You see your teammate throw toward the other team's basket, if the ball is about to go in, foul the nearest opponent. No basket and no free throws. Yes, I know, unless it is intentional or flagrant. Id like to see someone do that.
grunewar just another ref wroteHere's something to think about. You see your teammate throw toward the other team's basket, if the ball is about to go in, foul the nearest opponent. No basket and no free throws. Yes, I know, unless it is intentional or flagrant.In the heat of the moment, what player is gonna think of that? 😉
just another ref grunewar wroteIn the heat of the moment, what player is gonna think of that? 😉 four words high po thet ick all
grunewar JAR - I know. My point was, most of the time these kids don't have a great basketball IQ ......and this scenario is waaaay out there! 😛
just another ref grunewar wroteJAR - I know. My point was, most of the time these kids don't have a great basketball IQ ......and this scenario is waaaay out there! :p Way out there. One of my specialties.🙂