Technical Fouls
 

The season is basically one-third of the way complete. Thought it might be fun to find out how many TF's you have called thus far.


I have had 8 (6 HS, 2 college) through 34 games, with 1 of those being assessed to a HC.


Any interesting stories that you care to share about the calls?

1.

1 coach, plus 1 for "running under the basket to take the court"

4. All on players. 3 of them came in a single 8th grade girls game.

Three unsporting technicals on players, none on coaches. District play is in full swing so we'll see how it shakes out.

Only one for me, when the coach offered his glasses to me. Easy!

3 coaches (including one juco assistant who made it really easy). Partner had a technical on a head coach this week.

26 games thus far.

Two. One was varsity boys, f-bomb.

The other, middle school girls, was reaching through the plane and touching the ball on a throw-in. Small court, only 9-10 inches of OOB space behind both end lines, so the entire court has a three-foot line which serves as the plane. (No other court in this area has this feature.) Of course, a visiting player committed the foul.

1 in ~20 games. Team Technical, wrong numbers in book,

I wanted to give 1 in an 8th grade girls game, but my partner got to the coach first and warned her.

47

Ok, that may be a little high.

3

1 excessive timeout, 1 coach, 1 player

None until last night in my first middle school games of the season.

Called 3T's in the same 7th grade B game. Total cluster...working with a first year official who was afraid to blow the whistle. Also had 2 kids go out of the game because they were bleeding. Good times...

I think 3? Two in HS and 1 in college(JUCO).

Do not keep track very well as I do not put much stock in these calls. BTW, this does not include a uniform T that I was apart of but may not have actually been the "calling official."

Peace

3 Player Ts for taunting/unsporting
1 Bench T for ABS/excessive chirping
1 Admin T for changing number in book

1. Player T for yelling "Bullsh!t" after my partner calls a foul on him...

As we were leaving the locker room after the game, the Coach stops us and tries to argue with us that his player never swore..."He's a good Mormon kid, and he's in there crying right now because you said he swore."

Just said "Ok, thanks Coach" and kept walking.

1 delay of game warning T (breaking the plane after being warned)
1 admin T for changing a number in book after submitted
3 player T's (2 in a double technical during a boys game I worked last night and 1 during a varsity girls tournament)

Last night was my 41'st game of the season!

In high school games, three on players.

1 for slamming the ball down
1 for language
1 for looking at me and screaming "Are you kidding me?"

One T on a coach for ABS
One more for adding a player to the book (different game, though).

I think I've been a little better this year at game management, which has led to fewer tech's on coaches.

1 behavioral(last night) and one book.

I have heard that one before, excluding the Mormon part. Perhaps he should be praying for forgiveness? :D

A couple book technicals. Nothing unsportsmanlike.

2, if I can count the one for the pregame dunk that you reported (after which the coach promptly ripped on the kid for doing it and benched him for the game).

The other was administrative.

Don't forget the first game of the year. Kid tossed the ball to the ceiling after your foul call.:D

"Then he needs to work on his elocution."

1 T for Delay of Game on the throw-in following the Delay of Game Warning (Talk about not getting the hint).

As we were walking away, my P said:

"Didn't you know that Mormons are genetically incapable of swearing?"

Luckily the Coach had walked the other way and was too far away to hear that!

I haven't had a single technical yet.

My trigger is getting itchy. or something like that :D

Get a room.

:p

After more thinking about this, I believe all 3 were in the HS ranks.

1. Was to a coach for ABS (coach known for being an a$$).
   
2. A player said, "Get the f### out of here" after I called a foul on him trying to block a shot. This was the same game with a uniform T, lead to some other issues with an administrator as well and Special Reports were filed. Long story and I might get into after the season.
   
3. I forgot this one, but I gave a T to a head coach after he yelled at my partner and my partner did not take care of him. Then later in the game he yelled at me and I stuck him.
   
4. Gave a technical about a week ago for a kid hanging on the rim after a big dunk. Obvious for sure.

Not only did I forget one, I forgot it was not in a college game. :D

Peace

Only 3 so far....all HS

1 - player dropped an F bomb
1- asst. coach that just couldn't stay seated and keep his lip zipped
1 - administrative

Got a MS boys tournament this weekend though, so it could change......

I'm not sure how many but I know I'm on a pretty pace this season. :D

Did whack a HC for the first time in quite a while (I think 4 years). And he did not curse. In fact he didn't say squat to me all game, before or after the T.

I did give a player his 2nd T of a ballgame, mine coming during OT.

Was he laughing at you ala Tim Duncan? :D

1. 1st boys game of the year, kid throws down a dunk and yells at the opponent....Coach asks the kid why did he do that...and gives him a seat.

2. Player slams the ball after I call her for an offensive foul....Coach: "What did she do?" Really Coach???

3. In my last game almost had an administrative but the lovely scorekeeper decided NOT to call us to the table until after the home player (who was not in the book) subbed out. Player NEVER came back in the game. Nice...

Lighter Schedule this year
 

I have only had 47 games so far this year (3 JUCO).

Just one T on coach for overt disagreement with some darn good officiating.

Oh, yeah. Forgot that one. :p

So, 2 of the 3 T's that have occurred in my games this year were both in games with you (and two different games).

Hmmm.

There's a reason I don't work games with icallfouls anymore.:eek:

Of course, it has nothing to do with calling T's...:mad:

So far......
 

One. Unsporting behavior - "thy protesteth too much.." :rolleyes:

What's the ABS acronym you guys keep using mean?

One T so far this season for a coach continually violating his coach's box. T after I nearly fell over him coming back down the court.

Accumulated Bull Sh!t...when a coach just doesn't know when to stop.

Rocky gave the description. But for further clarification is is usually given when a single act would not get a T otherwise, but the accumulation of their acts warrants one anyway.

Peace

I could tell you how many I've given out so far, but when I count higher than 10 I have to take my shoes off. :eek:

There's more than one way to look at it :p

Nice!
I think it was the company we were keeping ;)

Got it. Thanks guys.

Five...
 

...one coach, four players.

The coach's team was getting killed, so she wanted the officials to be her mitigation. As hard as I tried, she wouldn't allow me to to get away from her without getting her T. She made such a display, it was unavoidable.

One player dropped the "F-bomb"; the others were overly demonstrative or unnecessarily vocal in their disagreement of the official's calls.

I know everybody refers to Techs as "whacks" here on the forums, but what do you guys think of this?

Rasheed Wallace Whack!

I knew I spoke too soon...

Tonight's freshman game fell apart in the 4th after the visitors started pulling away and the home team decided they didn't want to play the game anymore.

I personally called two intentional fouls and a technical on home team players. Not to mention the flagrant T I called on a visiting team player near the end of the game after he stormed off the court screaming F bombs at the top of his lungs in protest of a call he didn't like.

Nearly stuck the home head coach too but he backed off the ledge of insanity.

I knew I should not have responded to this thread in the first place. I added one today. Got a player after about the 4th or 5th time I had told players to stop. Oh well, one of the least enjoyable games of the season.

Peace

Only 1 for me so far this season. Administrative T for adding a player to the book after the game had started. I only remember it becuase the offending team was from Australia and had a 7'2" center. Kid was only 16 too :eek:

I had an admin T too for changing a number in the scorebook. Forgot about that one.

4 for me. One Double for squaring off after a held ball (MS girls), one for reaching across and hitting the ball in the thrower's hand (6th grade YMCA), and last night's admin T for having the wrong number in the book (JV Boys).

You Had to Jinx Me
 

First T last night. HC for ABS.
2 things:
1 - how about letting me call the travels.
2 - don't question my ethics.

Game got better after the T. Or at least quieter.

Rulz Are Rulz ...
 

Wow. You guys are tough. We've been advised, at least locally, to warn, and to report it to our assignment commissioner who is our liaison with the state interscholastic sports governing body.

Had an entertaining set of technicals the other night in a BV game. Player yells the fword after being called for a foul. T, then after ref heads to table, same player turns to fans who are saying something to him and flips them off. Tweet, second T, he's gone and in Alaska the state rule is they have a one game suspension, so he can't play in the next game. Turns out the player is the JV coaches son. :p That coach was a minor pain in the arse in the previous game. Wonder why the son would act like that?:D

Sounds like the apple didn't fall far from the tree....

California plays by that rule too Loudwhistle2!

6 Technical fouls this season in 20 or so games.

1 player T for taunting
2 HC T (different games/teams) for going above and beyond the call of coaching. Verbally and visually disagreeing with a call after being told what the ruling was and that was all I had to say on the play. Both coaches decided to try to continue the "discussion" by coming onto the court and yelling at us about the plays.
1 Team T for changing the book. Team had two of the same number and dumb-dumb (read: me) didn't catch it when checking the books pre-game. Table caught it when one of the # received a foul and then realized it. T for changing the other players number to what he had on.
2 Team T for 2 DOG warnings.

UPDATE: Same kid last night received two technicals again in a varsity game in his home town!! Wonder how long he'll be on the team!

Went from 3 to 6 in just one game.

MS boys tournament - 7th grade boys. 1st game each team had at least 3 adults on the bench Coaches were told in pregame meeting only the head coaches can stand - others have to stay seated. By end of 1st quarter both benches had been warned again that assistants couldn't stand.

T#1 - Middle of Q2, as we're coming down the court home AC stands up right in front of me and screams about PC foul on the other end. Whack!
T#2 - HC questions the T call an AC and I tell him both teams had already been warned repeatedly. I told him it was also an indirect on him and that he no longer could use the coaching box and had to sit as well. HC looks straight at me and says "That's f***ing ridiculous." - Whack!

Now we're in a situation where if HC offends again he's gone and if AC offends again they're both gone. Fortunately they behaved the rest of the game.

T#3 - Late in Q3 my partner calls a PC foul on H31. H10 has the ball and when I ask him for it he glares at me and throws it about half way to the ceiling in the other direction - Whack!

Early in the 4th my partner rung up the visiting AC when he decided to stand up and get vocal.

Four T's in one game - fortunately the 2nd game was much better and we had no problems at all.

I had two Gold Crown (sort of like AAU) games today, and figured I might add to my total.

Nothing. Had a DOG warning (scoring team player grabs ball and sets it down in the middle of the lane so that it doesn't bounce or roll.)

Yeah I knew this was a jinx for sure.

Had my first technical on Friday, for 6 players on the floor...girls varsity game.

Saturday, gave a player his 2nd technical, partner gave him the first...boys varsity.

Sunday, gave a coach a technical for arguing an OOB call. He screamed with hands raised, because the other team got the ball...you guessed it 7th grade boys :D

Now I know why they don't talk about the no hitter during the no hitter.

Hey at least you took care of business instead of ignoring unsporting behavior because you wanted to preserve some sort of streak. :)

6 + 2 = 8
 

My count goes to 8 tonight with two separate T's on a Head Coach tonight and making my first ejection of the 2011-2012 season. Why is it that coaches believe that they have a right to berate and belittle officials after being told what the call is? They still think they have to get to have a say in about the call.

Well I whacked my first head coach last night during my freshman game.

The visiting team head coach had been working us throughout the first quarter and was starting to accumulate the ABS meter. He cooled for a while in the second quarter until I called a shooting foul on one of his players. During the first free throw, a visiting team player standing behind the shooter yells "I've got shooter!" just as the shooter is winding up for her shot which is missed. Based upon her reaction, I judge it to be disconcerting and call the violation.

He goes off declaring that his team is just communicating. I told him "They can communicate coach as long as it doesn't disconcert the shooter." Just as the shooter is taking her substitute throw, he growls "YOU need to read the rule book." I wait a beat for the shot to finish and then whack him.

He knew right away and when I told him he needed to sit, he just responded "Yeah I know."

My partner remarked before the fourth quarter "You know his girls are playing better since you T'd him up."

Is that near the Cliffs of Insanity?

I think I have issued 6 or 7. 1 was an admin for a wrong number. Another was a guy jumping up and grabbing the rim when nobody was around him and another player had already shot and scored. The others were player unsporting fouls for language and one ball slam in my direction. And, of course, the ABS T on a coach early in the season.

Aren't technical fouls suppose to be like any other foul? If that's the case do you count how many holds or blocks you've called already this year?

I've called a few. I've passed on a few. I was doing one game where one kid alone got three himself.

I don't really keep track.

Only 1
 

....or does it count as 2? Got a Double T on some hotheads in a big school HS game for "squaring off" in each other's face.

....no coaches...yet...but it's coming now that conference has started. The same coaches that seemed cordial in NOV/DEC are turning into sarcastic jerks now that it counts a bit more..

Why Is A Raven Like A Writing Desk ???
 

Not quite yet here in The Land of Steady Habits. In order to make the state tournament, teams have to win at least 40% of their games, which for most teams is eight of twenty games. In a few more weeks coaches will be eying that eighth win, and as that win gets more difficult to achieve, and as the season starts to wind down in mid February, that's when we start having lots of "tea" parties.

Obviously that is not true, because when they are given everyone focuses on them. You should call them like any other foul with little emotion, but we all know the players, coaches and fans do not look at them like any other. Like I said before I had to write up a school for their actions that were inappropriate earlier this year. What do you think they talked about in their response? Yes the Ts that were given to them, not the block-charge call that went against them in that game. ;)

Doesn't that mean you are keeping track? :D

Peace

the count went up one last week. head coach dropped an f-bomb, no brainer

But wasn't that after you called 'over-the-back' on his 5'2" post player?

3 through 20 games. 2 unsporting coaches, 1 wrong number in book.
One of the coaches was offering his glasses to me - didn't need that, the other was about 10 feet on the floor complaining about a call he could see better from the other end of the court.

For the first time in 20 years of coaching, my team received T's for:
1.) 6 players on the court. 6th grade boys. I subbed a kid out, but he had wondered off to get a drink instead of staying in the team huddle, and the got himself on to the court without me or anyone else noticing. The game was playing and I kept thinking something didn't look right. *sigh* We then had a chat after the game about not going off to do your wown thing while the coach is talking.

2.) Player's number not in the book. We had to replace our 8th grade boys uniforms over Christmas due to shoddy workmanship, and apparently one of the boys requested a new number but no one bothered to relay that to me or the person who does our roster. *sigh*

Me: Coach your glasses are dirty, no wonder you aren't seeing the same game I am :p

One more tonight. As I'm coming across to tableside trail to administer a throw in, the players are a little chatty. Before I can step in to address it, V1 pops off to someone on H, "you need to shut your a$$ up."

And one more tonight. AC. MS girls.

Not everyone has the same definition of what a swear word is.

FWIW, I think you made the correct call. ;)

Two on players, and one on a coach (tonight). I looked over and he was running down the court next to me complaining about a (no) call. Pretty funny, in hindsight.

not again ...
 

College game, player A going for rebound gets the ball and is fouled by B. I call the foul, A turns and gets in face (chest really) and I separate the two. A won't let it go, drops an m*f* on B.... and the rest is 2 shots for the TF, followed by 2 shots for the double bonus.

Maybe She Noticed The IAABO Emblem On My Jersey ???
 

Girls varsity prep school game. Sloppy play from both teams, but there were a few descent players on both teams, and both teams were well coached.

Home is ahead by three points with about a minute to go. Due to some poor foul shooting by Home, Visitors have three chances to dig into that lead in the last minute. During all three Visitor possessions, they try to get the ball to V1, their best player, who, during all three possessions, tries to shoot from behind the three point line, and tries to throw herself into a defender to draw a foul on all three shots, figuring she could make the three, and get one free throw, or miss the three, and get three free throws. On all three tries, her shot is unsuccessful, and the defender just stands there in vertical stance with her hands straight up in the air, and I, or my partner, a veteran who's been officiating for forty-five years, come up with three consecutive no calls.

After her last unsuccessful shot, with her team behind by only three with about twelve seconds to go in the game, V1 turns to me and questions me emphatically, "Are you blind?".

Whack, and it's her fifth foul. Home makes one of the two technical foul free throws, and ices the clock for the final twelve seconds.

First "Tea Party" of the season for me. I never did answer her question, so in case she reads this Forum, "No. I'm not blind."

Effing hat trick this week. Three nights in a row. Stupid monkeys. No more pink shoe laces for me.

5 this week. 3 on Tuesday, 2 tonight. 2 head coaches, 1 assistant, 2 players.

Worked 5 games, but the 5 technicals were in 2 games.

New poster, first-year official. I'm 18 years old, a student in college, and decided to give HS basketball a try this winter after a couple years' experience in soccer. Been lurking here for a couple weeks, but now I actually have a situation worth posting about.

I've given three Ts in 14 HS games (all freshman and sophomore) this year. Two were simple Ts to coaches for ABS.

The third was a bit of a bigger deal. Happened Friday afternoon, boys sophomore. Red getting blown out, three or four minutes left in the game. I'm trail in two-man, Red #11 is defending a shot in the post right at the edge of the key. He has one arm vertical, but I see the other one give a little push on the shot. Foul. As I turn around to the table to report it, #11 comes jogging toward his bench because he's just been DQ'd for his fifth foul. As he's going by me, he gives me a little elbow in the side. Not enough to cause pain or anything, but hard enough that it was clear he was doing this to dissent the call. Easy T. My partner later told me that I needed to report the incident to the HS Activities Association, which I did as soon as I got home. On the drive home, though, it occurred to me that I shouldn't have just given a T, but a flagrant T. Relating that to soccer, the sport I know quite a bit better, I'm going to send a player off every time for striking me in any manner to dissent a call. Certainly should've done the same here.

Agreed, but if you include that to your state, they'll probably tell you the same thing and suspend him anyway. He was already out for the game, so it's not that big a deal.

BTW, had the coach been informed that it was the player's fifth foul?

I didn't realize it was his fifth until after the T. Our scorer was pretty top-notch, not just a 15-year-old kid like at most sophomore games, so I'm guessing he let the coach know.

This is not a huge deal, but I think the point was that notifying the coach is part of your job, not the scorer's.

Ok, otherwise, once you inform the coach of the fifth foul, then any Technicals on that player would be an indirect on the coach. No more coaching box (if your state uses it).

That too. :D

Not good enough. You (or the other official) must, by rule, notify the coach in order to make the player bench personnel.

The order is notify the head coach, start the 20-second clock for replacement, notify the player. The first horn should be five seconds after you start the clock. I always instruct the timer to never give a second horn in this situation.

We had a technical last night on a player who wanted to give his version of events on every foul he picked up. We ignored the first one, really had our radar up on the second one, and my partner decided to talk to him on the third one, although he was really close to giving a technical to him and probably should've (he actually brought the whistle up and I could tell his hands started too, although it was pretty subtle -- then he thought better of it for some reason). Then after a long talk from my partner, the kid walked past me and said something else and I calmly whacked him. Easiest technical foul I've called, probably.

I am way over 1/2 through the year. Guessing I have done about near 60 games.

If I remember correctly, I have 4 "T"s for the year.

2 coach ( jv level & church league )

2 players ( 1 church league and 1 jv level )

In the past by now I would have 15 or more. I am more patient in my old age ( year 12 ).

As one who also does soccer and basketball, this is a fair comparison. The red card equivolent in basketball is the flagrant T. The yellow card is the T.

What constitutes a red/flagrant or yellow/technical has some variances from locale to locale. Get to know your locale.

Welcome to the board.

It's been a rather productive season. In the last couple weeks I've had one against a head coach, an administrative for wrong number in the book, one on a throw in for reaching across the OOB boundary and slapping the ball out of the thrower's hands, one for a loudly delivered F-bomb and the latest tonight for a young lady with a bad attitude and a foul mouth. So I'm up to something like 11........last year I think I only assessed 3 or 4.

Last Friday we also tossed a varsity assistant, but I didn't assess either of the two T's so I'm not counting them in the total.....

My personal total in the past week was 2. But as crews we had 2 on Tuesday, 3 on Saturday, and 3 last night.

It's Six P.M., Do You Know Where Your March Hare Is ???
 

Last night. Catholic middle school "little kids" game. Third period. H1 interferes with ball, bouncing it away, after a basket by H. Partner gives the delay of game warning to H. Few minutes later. H2 crosses the boundary on a throwin by V, after being warned several times. H2 says, "But I didn't touch him". I report the second delay of game warning, and the technical. Pretty boring "Tea Party". Ho. Hum.

I've given 1 T (on a player for a two handed chuck after the whistle) in three years as a certified official, one year a full schedule (30+ games) of sub varsity games, and two on a regular crew with +- 20 varsity dates and another +-15 sub varsity dates.

Am I doing it wrong?

Only you can tell us that. Are there any situations where you think back and think you should/could have assessed a 'T'?

Not really, I was just sort of joking..

I've only have two occasions where I regret not giving a T. One was early in my first year (I think it was my second game) in a 2 man JV game. I was trail table side and my partner was on the baseline opposite of the home bench. I don't remember the exact nature but the HC was upset at something and was clear across half court barking at my partner. Had I stuck him there he would probably have gone back to his seat. As it was he stayed out there a little too long and said something that really got him in trouble, and caused a headache for the AD, our local assigner, and some state officials. It was a great learning experience for a new official with the lesson being sometimes a T is a good thing for everyone involved.

The second instance was just last year doing a local youth tournament. As I was jogging down the court table side I overheard an assistant "coach" tell a player to box out instead of just standing around "with your dick in your hand". It wasn't loud enough for anyone outside of the bench to hear but I still should have stuck him. It was a 6th grade team damn it and your supposed to be a coach, a leader, and role model, act like it.

I would have been laughing too much to blow my whistle...LOL

+1:d

For the second time ever, I started a game with a T last night. Book had wrong numbers for two players, one a starter. My first time ever was last Friday. JVB game, after our girls game, my P checked the book with 4 min on the clock, and the visitors weren't anywhere around with the roster.