Player Control Foul leads to FT's?

Raymond

rockyroad wrote
That would not have been in the 80's, I don't think.

I'm wondering if by "charge" the author is referring to a situation where the ball handler passed the ball and then ran Alford over? Alford was sneaky that way...

Maybe it was an airborne shooter after he released the shot.

rockyroad

BadNewsRef wrote
Maybe it was an airborne shooter after he released the shot.

Ahhhhh...that rule changed in the mid 90's I believe, so you may be on to something here!

Camron Rust

I think PC fouls stopped resulting in FTs sometime in the mid/late 90's.

gdudik

NCAA rules allow for shooting on a team control foul if the fouled team is in the bonus, I believe, but fed rules don't allow for any shooting after a team control foul.

APG

gdudik wrote
NCAA rules allow for shooting on a team control foul if the fouled team is in the bonus, I believe, but fed rules don't allow for any shooting after a team control foul.

Nope, team control foul means no shots, period. At both levels.

gdudik

I'm sorry for providing bad info. I could have sworn NCAA did shoot on offensive fouls, or used to, in any case, but I guess I'm wrong. Shows how much attention I pay to college rules.

APG

gdudik wrote
I'm sorry for providing bad info. I could have sworn NCAA did shoot on offensive fouls, or used to, in any case, but I guess I'm wrong. Shows how much attention I pay to college rules.

Under NCAA-M, free throws are awarded if the defense is in the bonus, and an airborne shooter charges into a defender after the ball is released and before he's returned to the floor. In all the other rule sets, you would still have a player control foul or an offensive foul with no points scored (as in the case of the NBA).

stiffler3492

AllPurposeGamer wrote
Under NCAA-M, free throws are awarded if the defense is in the bonus, and an airborne shooter charges into a defender after the ball is released and before he's returned to the floor. In all the other rule sets, you would still have a player control foul or an offensive foul with no points scored (as in the case of the NBA).

This exact play happened in the Indiana/Minnesota game tonight.

gdudik

AllPurposeGamer wrote
Under NCAA-M, free throws are awarded if the defense is in the bonus, and an airborne shooter charges into a defender after the ball is released and before he's returned to the floor. In all the other rule sets, you would still have a player control foul or an offensive foul with no points scored (as in the case of the NBA).

Thank you. That's where I was getting confused. I was thinking to myself, "I *know* I've seen them all trooping down to the other end of the floor to shoot FTs; what am I missing?"

BktBallRef

stiffler3492 wrote
I'm reading A Season On The Brink, about the 1985-86 Indiana Hoosiers.

During a recount of a game, the author mentioned that Steve Alford drew a charge, then hit the ensuing free throws.

So, was there a time when player and/or team control fouls led to free throws if the offended team was in the bonus?

There was a time when there was no such thing as a team control foul AND a charge is not always a player control foul.