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bainsey Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:00am

NCAA Rule Check: Travelling
 
On the way home from my game tonight, I listened to a college game, Boston University at Maine. I've known our play-by-play guy for years.

During the game, the announcer said the official missed a travel as a BU player "lost a hold of the ball." Now, before I tear into my buddy, I just want to double-check.

Are the rules regarding control and travelling the same in the NCAA as they are in NFHS?

Scrapper1 Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:02am

Almost exactly the same. (I want to say exactly, but there's probably some tiny difference).

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Jan 12, 2012 02:14am

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 812478)
On the way home from my game tonight, I listened to a college game, Boston University at Maine. I've known our play-by-play guy for years.

During the game, the announcer said the official missed a travel as a BU player "lost a hold of the ball." Now, before I tear into my buddy, I just want to double-check.

Are the rules regarding control and travelling the same in the NCAA as they are in NFHS?

The same.

MTD, Sr.

Raymond Thu Jan 12, 2012 08:51am

Only difference is when a player first controls the ball while airborne (ie: rebound; pass) and falls to the floor.

Not a travel in NCAA (no pivot foot violation), is a travel in NFHS.

bainsey Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:44am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 812545)
Only difference is when a player first controls the ball while airborne (ie: rebound; pass) and falls to the floor.

Not a travel in NCAA (no pivot foot violation), is a travel in NFHS.

Interesting. Are we talking about a fall where a foot or two lands first, or straight from air to floor (body crashing to the floor)?

Raymond Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:55am

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 812582)
Interesting. Are we talking about a fall where a foot or two lands first, or straight from air to floor (body crashing to the floor)?

Straight to the floor.

The first game I ever officiated was a military intramural game. A player got a rebound and fell in such a manner. I called nothing. After the game my partner told me it is always a travel when a player falls with the ball. Through research I discovered the different interp between college and HS rules.

BTW, an aside from that first game: Opening tip, A1 gets a breakaway lay up off the tip and B1 comes in after the ball has already passed through the basket and slaps the backboard. I call a T 5 seconds into my first ever game. My partner comes in and overrules my T. I was vindicated after the game as an official in the stands who went on to a D1 career (and became one of my best friends) told me I made the right call and my partner had no business doing what he did.

bainsey Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:12am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 812589)
Straight to the floor.

Gotcha, Case 4.44.5A.

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BTW, an aside from that first game: Opening tip, A1 gets a breakaway lay up off the tip and B1 comes in after the ball has already passed through the basket and slaps the backboard. I call a T 5 seconds into the game. My partner comes in and overrules my T.
Been there. (I think we all have.) I had an elderly partner do that to me in my second year, after a called an easy backcourt after tip-off. (A-1 tipped to A-2, who was established in the frontcourt, then pivoted to the backcourt.)

Rob1968 Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:13am

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 812593)
Gotcha, Case 4.44.5A.



Been there. (I think we all have.) I had an elderly partner do that to me in my second year, after a called an easy backcourt after tip-off. (A-1 tipped to A-2, who was established in the frontcourt, then pivoted to the backcourt.)

Please, define "elderly" . . .

mbyron Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:05am

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Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 813037)
Please, define "elderly" . . .

Oh, that's an easy one: it's 15 years older than you. :D

bainsey Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:32am

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Originally Posted by rob1968 (Post 813037)
please, define "elderly" . . .

65+

wfd21 Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:52am

Carefull now your starting zero in. How much snow u get up ur way Bainesy?:confused:

bainsey Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:16pm

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Originally Posted by wfd21 (Post 813058)
How much snow u get up ur way Bainesy?

About five inches. Not a lot, but enough to cover the frozen brown ground.

Rob1968 Sat Jan 14, 2012 09:57am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 813050)
Oh, that's an easy one: it's 15 years older than you. :D

"I may not be as good as I once was, but I'm as good, once, as I ever was . . .:)

mbyron Sat Jan 14, 2012 04:25pm

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Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 813258)
"I may not be as good as I once was, but I'm as good, once, as I ever was . . .:)

This forum might not be the best place to post about your intimate life. :D


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