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Moosie74 Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:05am

Help from the Crowd
 
In an 8th grade game the other night I call 4-5 fouls on the home team and none on the visitors. HC is all over me for that and wants to know why I'm doing that. Before I can even respond a fan behind the bench says "maybe our boys should stop fouling them, coach"

Later in the game coach is yelling again for a whistle, I tell him knock it off or he'll get the whistle, same fan, "(coach) will you just shut up and try and win the game!"

Made that game easier, coach kind of gave up after that.

Same coach ran the table on the second game, he apologized said he got a bit excited because he won the other night and wanted to win again that night but his team apparently isn't that good.

Good thing he wasn't coaching the 7th grade team, they were down 13-1 at the end of the 1st quarter and lost by 42.

Toren Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:36am

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Originally Posted by Moosie74 (Post 811892)
In an 8th grade game the other night I call 4-5 fouls on the home team and none on the visitors. HC is all over me for that and wants to know why I'm doing that. Before I can even respond a fan behind the bench says "maybe our boys should stop fouling them, coach"

Later in the game coach is yelling again for a whistle, I tell him knock it off or he'll get the whistle, same fan, "(coach) will you just shut up and try and win the game!"

Made that game easier, coach kind of gave up after that.

Same coach ran the table on the second game, he apologized said he got a bit excited because he won the other night and wanted to win again that night but his team apparently isn't that good.

Good thing he wasn't coaching the 7th grade team, they were down 13-1 at the end of the 1st quarter and lost by 42.


How would you have responded to the coach had you had the opportunity?

JugglingReferee Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:03pm

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Originally Posted by Moosie74 (Post 811892)
In an 8th grade game the other night I call 4-5 fouls on the home team and none on the visitors. HC is all over me for that and wants to know why I'm doing that. Before I can even respond a fan behind the bench says "maybe our boys should stop fouling them, coach"

Later in the game coach is yelling again for a whistle, I tell him knock it off or he'll get the whistle, same fan, "(coach) will you just shut up and try and win the game!"

Made that game easier, coach kind of gave up after that.

Same coach ran the table on the second game, he apologized said he got a bit excited because he won the other night and wanted to win again that night but his team apparently isn't that good.

Good thing he wasn't coaching the 7th grade team, they were down 13-1 at the end of the 1st quarter and lost by 42.

So then they improved after the 1st quarter. :D

Adam Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:13pm

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Originally Posted by Toren (Post 811913)
How would you have responded to the coach had you had the opportunity?

Ooh ooh! I know!

RookieDude Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:18pm

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Originally Posted by Moosie74 (Post 811892)
... Before I can even respond a fan behind the bench says "maybe our boys should stop fouling them, coach"

Later in the game coach is yelling again for a whistle, I tell him knock it off or he'll get the whistle, same fan, "(coach) will you just shut up and try and win the game!"

I've been wondering what JR has been doing with himself lately...

Jurrasic had to be the FAN!:D

Moosie74 Tue Jan 10, 2012 01:00pm

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Originally Posted by Toren (Post 811913)
How would you have responded to the coach had you had the opportunity?

Since I had already told him to knock it off once, my response would have been

Tweet
Technical foul , white, head coach

And then go home and write the report.

It's my first year doing basketball, my 20th year officiating overall so I'm not unfamiliar with being worked and fixing other's behavior.

Moosie74 Tue Jan 10, 2012 01:03pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 811922)
So then they improved after the 1st quarter. :D

Yeah, I guess. :)

RookieDude Tue Jan 10, 2012 01:28pm

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Originally Posted by Moosie74 (Post 811949)
Since I had already told him to knock it off once, my response would have been

Tweet
Technical foul , white, head coach

And then go home and write the report.

You have to write a report for EVERY technical foul you call?

Moosie74 Tue Jan 10, 2012 01:43pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 811975)
You have to write a report for EVERY technical foul you call?

Yes, our association requires it. Just a brief narrative about the events leading up to to the call and the resulting compliance/noncompliance.

Adam Tue Jan 10, 2012 01:57pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 811975)
You have to write a report for EVERY technical foul you call?

State requirement here.

Loudwhistle2 Tue Jan 10, 2012 01:59pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 811932)
I've been wondering what JR has been doing with himself lately...

Jurrasic had to be the FAN!:D

Me too! Where's JR these days?

bainsey Tue Jan 10, 2012 02:12pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 811975)
You have to write a report for EVERY technical foul you call?

We have an webpage for that. You just fill in the fields (team name, player/coach name, time, location, etc.) and a brief description of the reason.

Our soccer board also has one for red/yellow cards, and as a bonus, someone prints out a spreadsheet at season's end of all the cards we issued, including the reasons. (It doesn't list who issued them.) It makes for a fun conversation piece!

BillyMac Tue Jan 10, 2012 05:25pm

Hopefully He'll Be Around Soon ...
 
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Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2 (Post 812015)
Where's JR these days?

Sabbatical.

Freddy Tue Jan 10, 2012 06:57pm

Do You Also Ride to the Game Together?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moosie74 (Post 811892)
Later in the game coach is yelling again for a whistle, I tell him knock it off or he'll get the whistle, same fan, "(coach) will you just shut up and try and win the game!"

Do you pay for your wife to get into the game, or does she buy her own ticket?

Moosie74 Wed Jan 11, 2012 08:35am

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 812123)
Do you pay for your wife to get into the game, or does she buy her own ticket?

:) Not her in this instance. Would she do that? Absolutely. This person was not known to me.

bob jenkins Wed Jan 11, 2012 08:58am

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Originally Posted by Moosie74 (Post 812232)
:) Not her in this instance. Would she do that? Absolutely. This person was not known to me.

I think Freddy was indicating that this would be a "good" line to say to the coach (i.e., implying that the fan was the coach's wife).

RookieDude Wed Jan 11, 2012 03:48pm

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Originally Posted by Moosie74 (Post 812232)
:) Not her in this instance. Would she do that? Absolutely. This person was not known to me.

Really? Your wife would yell at the coach in the game you are officiating?

LOL...I tell my wife (the few times she goes) to ignore all the screamers. Although, just last week her friend went with her...and she told me her friend yelled at a fan that was yelling at us.

The fan shut his mouth.

Raymond Wed Jan 11, 2012 04:48pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 812420)
Really? Your wife would yell at the coach in the game you are officiating?

LOL...I tell my wife (the few times she goes) to ignore all the screamers. Although, just last week her friend went with her...and she told me her friend yelled at a fan that was yelling at us.

The fan shut his mouth.

You're the man. I can't get my own wife to come see any of my games, let alone her friends.

Welpe Wed Jan 11, 2012 04:53pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 812428)
You're the man. I can't get my own wife to come see any of my games, let alone her friends.

I'm pretty lucky in that my wife loves going to both my basketball and football games. She hides from the fans though because they drive her nuts too.

rockyroad Wed Jan 11, 2012 04:57pm

Saw a different take on this last night. V Girls game...home team fan is going off on officials about one thing after another. Small crowd, so he is heard by everyone in the gym. About the 4th time he starts hollering, the home Coach jumps up and turns to the stands and tells the guy to either knock it off or pack up and leave. Guy sputters for a few seconds, and then the home point guard says 'Dad, just leave. Please? You are embarrassing us."

Guy got up and left the gym. Rest of the home fans started clapping and cheering for the point guard.

Made me feel all warm inside! :p

Moosie74 Thu Jan 12, 2012 08:36am

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 812420)
Really? Your wife would yell at the coach in the game you are officiating?

LOL...I tell my wife (the few times she goes) to ignore all the screamers. Although, just last week her friend went with her...and she told me her friend yelled at a fan that was yelling at us.

The fan shut his mouth.

My wife will go to my games and sit and watch. Since she'll never react to any of the plays someone will ask who her son or daughter is and she'll say it's the umpire/referee and they usually stop any comments or anything.

Baseball game last year when one team was in red the other in white someone asked her who her son was, she said oh, #18 in blue. Took the fan a moment to figure it out and then they said oh, never mind and got up and left.

jTheUmp Thu Jan 12, 2012 09:21am

My girlfriend has been to a couple of my basketball games so far this year. She also went to one of my football games.

At the football game, she ended up sitting in the same area as most of the home team's parents. Eventually, they asked her which player out there was her son. Her response: "My son isn't out there... my boyfriend is." I'm told there were a few odd looks before she clarified that I was the one wearing the stripes.

BillyMac Thu Jan 12, 2012 05:20pm

Scary Moment ...
 
Way back, when I was a subvarsity official, and when I was married, my wife used to go with me to Saturday night games, and we would go out to dinner after the game.

One night, while working the junior varsity game, I look up into the crowd to see her sitting with one of the varsity coaches. This is the same coach, who the previous week, had coached his junior varsity team, in a game that I had worked, due to the illness of his junior varsity coach. This is one of the real "old school" coaches, coaching soccer, basketball, and baseball, at his school, being very successful, like state championship successful, in all three sports, and was very experienced at "working" officials. This was back when we had the "seatbelt rule", and I had to sternly remind him several times to take his seat, something that he wasn't used to from some of our more timid varsity officials.

All throughout the game, I was worried about what my wife might say to this coach, because I had already told her that one of the varsity coaches at the site was a "real piece of work". In any case, after my game I asked her about what she and "Coach" were discussing. She told me that the coach had been very complimentary of my work, that it took a lot of guts to "sit him down" in my game the previous week, and that he was looking forward to me moving up to the varsity list and to have me work his varsity games.

Freddy Thu Jan 12, 2012 05:25pm

Time to Count Sheep Again . . .
 
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 812835)
She told me that the coach had been very complimentary of my work, that it took a lot of guts to "sit him down" in my game the previous week, and that he was looking forward to me moving up to the varsity list and to have me work his varsity games.

And then BillyMac woke up, the smile on his pillow-creased face fading with the newly rising dawn of the day. It was time to make the coffee and get to work. :D

Next dream installment: "The cheerleaders keep gawking at me even to this day . . ."

Camron Rust Thu Jan 12, 2012 05:52pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 812835)
This is one of the real "old school" coaches...and was very experienced at "working" officials.

...

She told me that the coach had been very complimentary of my work, that it took a lot of guts to "sit him down" in my game the previous week, and that he was looking forward to me moving up to the varsity list and to have me work his varsity games.

He was working you through your wife before you even got his games. :p

He was clearly very good at working officials to start that early.

BillyMac Thu Jan 12, 2012 06:12pm

Not Single, Hot, Not A Mom ...
 
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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 812838)
And then BillyMac woke up, the smile on his pillow-creased face fading with the newly rising dawn of the day. It was time to make the coffee and get to work.

You're right. I made this up. What really happened is that he tried to hit on my wife, I climbed up into the bleachers, and beat the bejesus out of him. Yeah. That's right. That's what really happened.


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