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Old Mon Jan 09, 2012, 04:05am
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Wagner @ Santa Clara last shot
Don't know if anyone has posted this yet, so here it is for discussion and those who haven't seen it.

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Don't know if anyone has posted this yet, so here it is for discussion and those who haven't seen it.

Kenny Ortiz's Game-Winning Shot - YouTube
That is the PERFECT camera angle! Looks good to me as it hit the front of the rim first. If it had been a "swish" I think it may have been a violation.
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That is the PERFECT camera angle! Looks good to me as it hit the front of the rim first. If it had been a "swish" I think it may have been a violation.
Why??
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Why??
Because the shot would have passed over the backboard from behind.
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Is this a reviewable play?
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Only reviewable to see if shot was released in time, not for trajectory.
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Old Mon Jan 09, 2012, 10:43am
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Because the shot would have passed over the backboard from behind.
Then it shouldn't matter if it hit the rim first or is a "swish". It would be a violation regardless. That is the reason for my question "why".
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Old Mon Jan 09, 2012, 11:32am
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I didn't see a ball go over the top of the backboard. If it's not illegal, it's legal.

I still love the radio call, though. Oh, sweet bias!
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Old Mon Jan 09, 2012, 10:03am
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should be no good right? it went over the backboard. Whether it swishes or bounces on the rim 10 times shouldn't matter.

It also looks like the first shot landed out of bounds, but that is a different argument.
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Old Mon Jan 09, 2012, 10:06am
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should be no good right? it went over the backboard. Whether it swishes or bounces on the rim 10 times shouldn't matter.
You are correct that the issue is the trajectory itself, and not whether the ball hits the rim. The point is that the trajectory from (about) the spot the ball was released might be (barely) legal if it results in the ball hitting the rim and (barely) illegal if it goes straight through.

It looks to me as if it's legal, but I'm not sure we can really tell (and no, I didn't do a frame-by-frame analysis).
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Does the ball not bounce OOB off of the first try?
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Does the ball not bounce OOB off of the first try?
I think it did.
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Does the ball not bounce OOB off of the first try?
The side of the backboard isn't OOB, are you saying it hit the back of the backboard because it went backwards? I could go along with that.

Or are you saying it lands out of bounds? I thought the same thing.
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The side of the backboard isn't OOB, are you saying it hit the back of the backboard because it went backwards? I could go along with that.

Or are you saying it lands out of bounds? I thought the same thing.
Yeah I was thinking it hit the endline after the first try. Tough angle
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