Wagner @ Santa Clara last shot

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Whether it swishes or bounces on the rim 10 times shouldn't matter.

That was not my point.

Connect the dots (point of release ---> front of rim). That line of flight "seems" to not pass over the backboard.

If it would have been a "swish" that line would seem to pass over the backboard.

[Camron Rust]

Legal shot.

The shot went up roughly inline with the edge of the board (as viewed by the camera) and came down on a line in front of the edge of the board (as viewed by the camera). That means that the ball, at it's peak, short of a massive wind gust to move it, was (or at least most of the ball was) outside the corner of the board.

Of course, there is the issue of whether the rule means it is a violation if part of the ball, the center of the ball, or the whole ball passes over the top. If it were any part of the ball, I'd think this would be a violation (I think some of the ball probably did clip the space above the backboard) but if it were the center of the ball or the whole ball, no violation.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Legal shot.

The shot went up roughly inline with the edge of the board (as viewed by the camera) and came down on a line in front of the edge of the board (as viewed by the camera). That means that the ball, at it's peak, short of a massive wind gust to move it, was in outside the corner of the board.

Of course, there is the issue of whether the rule means it is a violation if part of the ball, the center of the ball, or the whole ball passes over the top. If it were any part of the ball, I'd think this would be a violation (I think some of the ball probably did clip the space above the backboard) but if it were the center of the ball or the whole ball, no violation.

As discussed back in this thread, I still think it was most likely a violation. And post #19 on that thread has the NCAA rule reference regarding "any part" of the ball.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

As discussed back in this thread, I still think it was most likely a violation. And post #19 on that thread has the NCAA rule reference regarding "any part" of the ball.

True, regarding the NCAA rule, but the NFHS rule is silent on that element (which is what I was thinking about with that comment).

Still, it is not clear that any of the ball crossed over the backboard....it was certainly close, but not certain by anything we can see for sure in this video....and if it is uncertain, I'm not calling it.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

There is the issue of whether the rule means it is a violation if part of the ball, the center of the ball, or the whole ball passes over the top.

Hey Camron Rust. Take this over to the soccer Forum.