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CoachNRef Sun Jan 08, 2012 07:30pm

humerous charge
 
Wish i had this on video. 9th grade boys A1 lowers shoulder and deliberately contacts B1 in torso with shoulder, then bounces back... A1 is about 120lbs and B1 is 200lbs. like running into a wall. there was alot of chuckles when ref called charging. How would u treat this...no-call or charge?

JugglingReferee Sun Jan 08, 2012 07:41pm

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Originally Posted by CoachNRef (Post 811501)
Wish i had this on video. 9th grade boys A1 lowers shoulder and deliberately contacts B1 in torso with shoulder, then bounces back... A1 is about 120lbs and B1 is 200lbs. like running into a wall. there was alot of chuckles when ref called charging. How would u treat this...no-call or charge?

I'd likely call the resulting A1 travel. ;)

grunewar Sun Jan 08, 2012 07:42pm

How is it a charge? More likely a travel or no call.

Welpe Sun Jan 08, 2012 09:36pm

I'd likely go with a no call on this (unless A1 traveled). The contact did not disadvantage B1.

Camron Rust Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:24pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 811504)
How is it a charge? More likely a travel or no call.

Whether it is the case or not in this situation, a defender doesn't have to tolerate being rammed even if they are able to avoid being displaced.

DLH17 Mon Jan 09, 2012 04:08pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 811513)
I'd likely go with a no call on this (unless A1 traveled). The contact did not disadvantage B1.

Perhaps this situation (if no foul or violation is called) does create an advantage for A1 (and a disadvantage for B1)....."space".

Space for A1 to get a shot off is one thing that comes to mind.

Adam Mon Jan 09, 2012 04:45pm

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Originally Posted by DLH17 (Post 811743)
Perhaps this situation (if no foul or violation is called) does create an advantage for A1 (and a disadvantage for B1)....."space".

Space for A1 to get a shot off is one thing that comes to mind.

Not if B1 isn't displaced.

DLH17 Mon Jan 09, 2012 04:53pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 811751)
Not if B1 isn't displaced.

Even if B1 isn't displaced, it's not a stretch to think A1 "bounces" back (as indicated in the OP) or sideways thereby creating space. Physics. For every action there's an opposite and equal reaction. If A1 "bounces" away from B1 far enough, he may well gain some advantage otherwise not gained had he not had collided with the B1. Wordy, huh? :)

Camron Rust Mon Jan 09, 2012 05:05pm

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Originally Posted by DLH17 (Post 811755)
Even if B1 isn't displaced, it's not a stretch to think A1 "bounces" back (as indicated in the OP) or sideways thereby creating space. Physics. For every action there's an opposite and equal reaction. If A1 "bounces" away from B1 far enough, he may well gain some advantage otherwise not gained had he not had collided with the B1. Wordy, huh? :)

I doubt A1 is gaining a advantage by running into a virtual wall then bouncing off no matter how much space they end up with. If they did gain so much space, it wouldn't be any more than they had before they approached B1.

Adam Mon Jan 09, 2012 05:08pm

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Originally Posted by DLH17 (Post 811755)
Even if B1 isn't displaced, it's not a stretch to think A1 "bounces" back (as indicated in the OP) or sideways thereby creating space. Physics. For every action there's an opposite and equal reaction. If A1 "bounces" away from B1 far enough, he may well gain some advantage otherwise not gained had he not had collided with the B1. Wordy, huh? :)

Nothing illegal about that. B1 isn't hindered from anything.


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