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Camron Rust Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:28am

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 810978)
We do that the entire game. Why should a throw-in be any different?

Oddly enough, I had this happen today. A-1 has the BCELTI; B-2 is defending inches from the endline, with arms raised vertically. A-1 jumps and throws the ball into the frontcourt, but just before he releases it, he makes contact with B-2's arm.

I had nothing.

We don't decide who makes contact. We decide, when contact occurs, who was not legal when contact occurred. Sometimes the player "making" contact is not the one who has fouled.

HawkeyeCubP Fri Jan 06, 2012 01:01am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 810991)
You think that works OK? That is worth an intentional foul on B2 for A2 to deliberately cause contact from B2 just because B2 passed close enough to the endline for A2 to create contact?

Apologies. I should've typed "clearly applies" instead of "works okay," as that's what I meant. I'm not judging the logic or appropriatness of the rule - just responding to your question of whether or not the rule change made things "easier" or perhaps didn't. I'm just saying that it's easy to apply the rule as it's written to that situation.

bainsey Fri Jan 06, 2012 01:05am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 810992)
We don't decide who makes contact. We decide, when contact occurs, who was not legal when contact occurred. Sometimes the player "making" contact is not the one who has fouled.

True, but sometimes, part of the equation of ruling illegal/incidental contact is determining who initiated the contact. In my aforementioned case, I couldn't legitimately penalize a defender who was contacted by his opponent.

Raymond Fri Jan 06, 2012 09:31am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 810941)
Question on Interpretation...


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Is is merely contact that triggers the IPF or do we judge the cause and/or whether the contact rises to the level of a foul?

If it happens on the IB side of the court we judge the cause.

26 Year Gap Sat Jan 07, 2012 08:09pm

You thief!
 
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Originally Posted by billymac (Post 810948)
great question.

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before you guys start, just give me a minute to get my laptop, and lay down on the couch. I want a comfortable, front row, seat for this thread. This is going to be good. Real good.

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