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fiasco Wed Jan 04, 2012 02:37pm

3 seconds is one of those rules that is way more nuanced than coaches/players think. Sometimes I wish I had the time and opportunity to explain those nuances to coaches during the game, because most truly don't understand it. Not that it would do any good, but I think some coaches might be surprised at how not quite cut and dry the 3 second rule is.

Smitty Wed Jan 04, 2012 02:42pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 810304)
iI have called this 5-6 times a season.

You call that violation 5-6 times a season?? :eek:

I find that hard to believe that it happens so blatantly that it needs to be called that many times. Are these kids really attempting to gain some kind of advantage or do they just happen to be out of bounds and not realize it? I've maybe called it one time since it became a violation. Maybe.

Camron Rust Wed Jan 04, 2012 03:02pm

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 810487)
You call that violation 5-6 times a season?? :eek:

I find that hard to believe that it happens so blatantly that it needs to be called that many times. Are these kids really attempting to gain some kind of advantage or do they just happen to be out of bounds and not realize it? I've maybe called it one time since it became a violation. Maybe.

While I called this about 2 weeks ago, I don't even remember the last time I called it...probably years ago. It just doesn't happen much.

Adam Wed Jan 04, 2012 03:35pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 810504)
While I called this about 2 weeks ago, I don't even remember the last time I called it...probably years ago. It just doesn't happen much.

I've called it once; 2 or 3 years ago.

26 Year Gap Wed Jan 04, 2012 04:48pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 810471)
I nearly told a coach last night: "The rule requires three whole seconds."

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 810472)
3 whole unbiased seconds :D

3 silent seconds with no interruptions. Otherwise, I lose count.

26 Year Gap Wed Jan 04, 2012 04:49pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 810504)
While I called this about 2 weeks ago, I don't even remember the last time I called it...probably years ago. It just doesn't happen much.

Guess Smitty likes to set aside rules he doesn't like. Penalty used to be a T.

Rich Wed Jan 04, 2012 04:55pm

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Originally Posted by tazzeroo2002 (Post 810475)
Rich,

I also worked a girls V game last night where the final was 71-5 where my P called 3-seconds....G.L. vs. O.L.. Are you the same "Rich" who filled in as my P last night? If so, good to see you on the forum.

Of course I am. What are the odds we're talking about two different games? :D

Good to see you here, too. Like I said last night, I hope someday that we can work a game that's a bit closer than 66 points.

It's always nice to work a game with a really solid official, even when it is 71-5.

Best part of last night were the fans yelling for 3 seconds during the possessions after I called it -- while the ball was bouncing on the rim. Of course, those fans were hoping for anything, ANYTHING at that point. :D

RookieDude Wed Jan 04, 2012 05:16pm

Fill in the Blank;

"Don't make ____________ your best call".

Mine would be..."3 seconds"...then "traveling".

Rich Wed Jan 04, 2012 05:17pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 810555)
Fill in the Blank;

"Don't make ____________ your best call".

Mine would be..."3 seconds"...then "traveling".

I'm with you, wholeheartedly.

Smitty Thu Jan 05, 2012 09:00am

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 810540)
Guess Smitty likes to set aside rules he doesn't like. Penalty used to be a T.

:rolleyes: I know what the penalty used to be, genius. That's why I said "since it became a violation". You didn't answer my question.

Adam Thu Jan 05, 2012 09:11am

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 810540)
Guess Smitty likes to set aside rules he doesn't like. Penalty used to be a T.

I'm with Smitty, I just never see it.

bob jenkins Thu Jan 05, 2012 09:14am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 810691)
I'm with Smitty, I just never see it.

Saw it and called it in a college game last Friday. (The NCAA rule is slighlty different -- the player who ran OOB must be the first (next) to receive a pass to be a violation.)

Smitty Thu Jan 05, 2012 09:17am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 810692)
Saw it and called it in a college game last Friday. (The NCAA rule is slighlty different -- the player who ran OOB must be the first (next) to receive a pass to be a violation.)

That is quite a different rule. The high school rule requires the player gains an advantage from being out of bounds for it to be a violation. I see kids out of bounds all the time, but not to gain any advantage. Calling this more than 5 times a season seems excessive.

Welpe Thu Jan 05, 2012 09:19am

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 810695)
That is quite a different rule. The high school rule requires the player gains an advantage from being out of bounds for it to be a violation.

It does? I know that's how it is officiated but all 9-3-3 says is that a player may not leave the court for an unauthorized reason.

Smitty Thu Jan 05, 2012 09:21am

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 810696)
It does? I know that's how it is officiated but all 9-3-3 says is that a player may not leave the court for an authorized reason.

You mean unauthorized reason. To me that means to gain an advantage. If you want to call it because the kid has his feet out of bounds, knock yourself out.


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