Uncalled Cheap Shots

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Plays two and six, I have nothing in of themselves. The other plays, at minimum would be an intentional foul in my book in of themselves (with the fifth play being a straight flagrant by itself) but since we have number 34 for white not seemingly attempting to play any legit defense, he would have been tossed well before we got to those other plays.

Agreed.

I'm amazed that the officials did not take care of #34, if not the first time then absolutely by the second time he committed a non-basketball act. After play #5 you see one of the officials talking to him and then kind of smiling and patting him on the back. WAY too little WAY too late!

Equally amazed that red did not retaliate. When I played in HS, there is no way we would have let opponents take cheap shots like that. I credit them for their restraint but 9 times out of 10 a fight breaks out in a situation like this. And after the 2nd time I wouldn't have faulted any kid on red for standing up for himself and his team. As the opposing coach I probably would have been ejected for walking down to the other sideline and handling business myself.

And the coach of the white team should be ashamed of himself. No way those two should have been allowed to play like that. It makes me assume that they were coached to play that way to intimidate opponents.

That's not basketball. It's two oversized teenagers being punks/bullies on the court.

Dangerous situation and the adults involved failed the red team miserably. Extremely fortunate that nobody was hurt and that an all out brawl didnt occur.

[referee99]

Originally Posted by vaterp

dangerous situation and the adults involved failed the red team miserably.

+1.

[Rich]

On first viewing, I had #2 and #6 as common fouls, #5 as flagrant, and the rest intentional.

I would've been looking quite closely at 34 and 42 and they wouldn't have played a lot of minutes -- either after getting ejected or picking up a few quick fouls.

No real urgency with the officials -- on hard fouls like that you'd expect at least 2 of the officials to close distance quickly to make sure things don't escalate. But here, nothing.

[BLydic]

I'm sorry, but if they are in chronological order and after I saw #1, #3 becomes flagrant and #34 is gone.

Oblivious? After #5, the one everyone agrees is the only flagrant foul, the C comes in for a chat with #34. Looked like a pleasant conversation with possibly a little pat on the fanny.

[deecee]

This is an awful display of officiating. Absolutely, completely disgraceful.

[Freddy]

For anyone who might have missed it, a poster gave a terrifically helpful link to the Georgia State Association's 2011 training video on the topic of "Fighting". Included is the advice mentioned above that things like this don't just happen all of a sudden, that there are identifiable precursors we should be alert for to keep stuff like this from happening.
This is a great resource for any association meeting.
Link: http://http://www.ghsa.net/basketball. Scroll down to 2011 Training Video.

[chseagle]

In a couple of clips, you'll see the AD in the corner (purple with white stripes polo). He just stands there & does nothing even when the Highland fans start spouting off unsporting comments towards #34 & the officials.

What the video shows is not the standard of play for Connell High.

Hopefully I'll have the opportunity to speak with both the Principal & AD about the video & the potential threats made in the comments on Wednesday.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by chseagle

In a couple of clips, you'll see the AD in the corner (purple with white stripes polo). He just stands there & does nothing even when the Highland fans start spouting off unsporting comments towards #34 & the officials.

The AD has no role to do anything, at least not say anything to the players or the officials. That is not the ADs job to say during the game.

Peace

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The AD has no role to do anything, at least not say anything to the players or the officials. That is not the ADs job to say during the game.

Peace

The AD can however remove unruly fans for unsportsmanlike conduct. He can also make the request to the Boys' coach that the player be removed from the game or face some sort of penalty.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The AD has no role to do anything, at least not say anything to the players or the officials. That is not the ADs job to say during the game.

Disagree.

The AD is the director of athletics at the school. He oversees all of the goings on involving athletics at the school. It's a home game. He absolutely has the power to step out on the court and yank those pieces of garbage off the floor, send them to the locker room and tell them they won't play another game in a CHS uniform.

But, he didn't.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

In a couple of clips, you'll see the AD in the corner (purple with white stripes polo). He just stands there & does nothing even when the Highland fans start spouting off unsporting comments towards #34 & the officials.

What the video shows is not the standard of play for Connell High.

Hopefully I'll have the opportunity to speak with both the Principal & AD about the video & the potential threats made in the comments on Wednesday.

Don't know about the principal, but the AD was there. What do you intend to tell him?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Don't know about the principal, but the AD was there. What do you intend to tell him?

Just show him the video. It speaks for itself.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Don't know about the principal, but the AD was there. What do you intend to tell him?

The principal was there as well, it's a high rarity to not have both present.

I sent both an e-mail with a link to the video mentioning that there have been threats made against the players & coaches.

All I can do is ask their thoughts and make some observations of what I saw.

After watching the video 5 times, I am thinking that there had to be some physical play from Highland as well.

It's just that there was biased opinion since the person who made the video was from Highland and Highland has been known in the past to play a physical game.

[biggravy]

Foul 2- couldn't help but notice the banner on the wall. "Wrestling Champs". No doubt.

[RookieDude]

Yes...I have officiated at this school numerous times over the years.

Yes...I know the officials on this crew.

Yes...there is a lot of publicity, about this game, going around here locally and nationally.

Yes...I have been assigned this school this Friday night as Visitors at another school. (On a 3 whistle crew...I am the R. One of the officials on "the YouTube game" will be on the crew as well.)

No...I have no comment at this time.

sidenote: Today's paper shows this school is 0-6.