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Originally Posted by VaTerp
1) Perhaps I embellished a little bit with the "watching the game from the parking lot." I've never actually said that to a kid. And that's why I said say "something to the effect of..."
But the point, that others seem to get, is not to threaten but to let them know that there are consequences if they choose to say certain things. From experience and feel you will find out the exact words that work for you. If I did actually say "watching the game from the parking lot" and the kid responded like you said, I would just say, "ok, we'll see" and leave it at that. That's the second point. Once you engage the kid, its REALLY hard to give a T at that point unless they just say something outrageous. So again, you have to figure out what words work for you. And from observation and experience, "What did you say" rarely works for anyone.
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When you have an audience that includes young officials, people who take things literally (like me) and others, I would suggest saying what you mean and meaning what you say. Even saying something to the effect of a kid watching a game from anywhere other than the bench as a result of you throwing them out of the game isn't going to happen. Or at least it isn't supposed to. That being the case, saying something to the effect of that is just an exercise in pronouncing or typing words. Or, as us "mature" people used to say, you are talking out the side of your neck.
2) Either you missed the point or I was not clear in the distinction between how I handle players talking in varsity games vs sub varsity/rec. The point is that in varsity games, I don't hear as much talk from players because they have more to lose and are more mature. Once they start talking a simple, "#12 play ball", works almost every time. At the other levels, kids are less mature and have less to lose, so simply saying, "play ball" doesnt always get the point across. So I have found that in order to nip it in the bud I have a shorter leash with these kids. If that doesnt make sense to you then so be it.
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Originally Posted by VaTerp
3) I don't know why you  at my "rare occasions" comment as if it somehow offends you. There is nothing wrong with anybody working games on any level. It's all a matter of personal choice. I simply stated, as a matter of fact, that it is a rare occasion for me to work sub-varsity level games right now. I use to work those games all the time. In fact, that's how I fed myself as a grad student. And I will still help out our rec assigner whenever he asks and I'm able. But it's my choice to rarely work those games as I do not enjoy working them nearly as much. If you do, for whatever the reason may be, then good for you. But no need to roll your eyes in response to me stating the frequency that I work certain levels. |
The comment doesn't offend me, but what did it add to your comments? Would your comment read the same without "rare occasion" and not run the risk of offending someone who is working their way up through the ranks? I work those games based on the needs of my crew, my work schedule, and my own desire. I assign the games for my crew so I ultimately decide if I work a freshmen game or a varsity game on any given night. The point is, your post could be read as you are too good for a sub-varsity game. Just saying...seems like it got you bent out of shape so let me take this opportunity to hit you with a
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 02:40pm
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