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[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Let's just say he felt justified that night and a while later. No idea if he would still feel that way.

Even after having it explained to him that he misapplied the rule?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Even after having it explained to him that he misapplied the rule?

Yes. He thought I waited too long to start the count and "we're not having the game end that way." It's not even the rule mistake that bothers me -- I can deal with rule mistakes. It's the idea that an official *ever* has the notion to make a 5-second call on a throw-in *he's not administering* that I'll never understand.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Yes. He thought I waited too long to start the count and "we're not having the game end that way." It's not even the rule mistake that bothers me -- I can deal with rule mistakes. It's the idea that an official *ever* has the notion to make a 5-second call on a throw-in *he's not administering* that I'll never understand.

He simply panicked. The game was probably too big for him because if it was not, he would not have been worried about what you were doing in that situation. That is why some guys never get to a certain level because they cannot handle the stress of the game in these kinds of situations. I think all the other justification is a way for him not to admit he was not ready and might never be. Why else would he justify his actions well after the fact?

Peace

[Adam]

He's the "get it right at all costs" guy who mocks officials who try to stay in their area. He probably had spent the entire game getting frustrated with Rich's count, or he wouldn't even have had a count here.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

He's the "get it right at all costs" guy who mocks officials who try to stay in their area. He probably had spent the entire game getting frustrated with Rich's count, or he wouldn't even have had a count here.

I could not agree anymore with this post.

Peace

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

He's the "get it right at all costs" guy who mocks officials who try to stay in their area. He probably had spent the entire game getting frustrated with Rich's count, or he wouldn't even have had a count here.

Yep.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Yes. He thought I waited too long to start the count and "we're not having the game end that way." It's not even the rule mistake that bothers me -- I can deal with rule mistakes. It's the idea that an official *ever* has the notion to make a 5-second call on a throw-in *he's not administering* that I'll never understand.

Having the game end what way? By letting the administering official count like he is supposed to? By letting a team have five seconds to throw the ball in after the ball is at their disposal? He didn't like it that the clock was running and the team that was winning apparently (In his mind) took too long to gather the ball for the throw-in? This guy would be on my scratch list within minutes of the game being over.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

He simply panicked. The game was probably too big for him because if it was not, he would not have been worried about what you were doing in that situation. That is why some guys never get to a certain level because they cannot handle the stress of the game in these kinds of situations. I think all the other justification is a way for him not to admit he was not ready and might never be. Why else would he justify his actions well after the fact?

Peace

JRut...you hit it on the head. He panicked, he didn't trust his partner, and then it sounds like he "big timed" him.

Sorry Rich...but, I gotta see this "trainwreck".

How would you search it on YouTube?

[Rich]

It's embedded on the first post of the thread.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It's embedded on the first post of the thread.

Thanks Rich..."YouTube" is blocked here at work...so I got on my phone and brought it up.

IMO...you handled that beautifully. I only watched it once. I told myself to watch it and do what I would normally do as if I was the "new trail".

I had a 4 count...your partner was nuts.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Thanks Rich..."YouTube" is blocked here at work...so I got on my phone and brought it up.

IMO...you handled that beautifully. I only watched it once. I told myself to watch it and do what I would normally do as if I was the "new trail".

I had a 4 count...your partner was nuts.

I was between 3 and 4. I used a stopwatch and started it when I thought the ball was at the disposal -- I had 3.5 seconds both times I ran it.

As a friend of mine says, "It is what it is." Hard to believe that was over 2 years ago, though.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

"we're not having the game end that way."

So... that wouldn't be a cool thing to do in the first half, but perfectly acceptable at the end of a game?

I hate that way of thinking.

[mj]

This ticked me off when it was posted the first time way back in the day. I think it grinds me even more today. I just cannot fathom anyone doing this.

I know you said you were quiet and out of the locker room in a hurry. Did he say anything?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mj

This ticked me off when it was posted the first time way back in the day. I think it grinds me even more today. I just cannot fathom anyone doing this.

I know you said you were quiet and out of the locker room in a hurry. Did he say anything?

He went into the shower and I took the opportunity to quickly dress and walk out.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

He went into the shower and I took the opportunity to quickly dress and walk out.

I am sure that was telling to him even if he was not aware of how bad his call was.

Peace

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

He went into the shower and I took the opportunity to quickly dress and walk out.

That's too bad, Rich. Sorry that a fellow official had to deal with something/someone like this...hopefully you shook the dust off your shoes and (other than it popping up on the forum every now and then) moved on without ever looking back.

It's hard to do, but that guy is really not worth your time or effort.