5-1-2 "Player control foul after a goal?"

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

That would be a pushing foul on A1. Basket counts.

Originally Posted by tref

Yup, in NCAA-M

Actually, it would be ignored in all codes, unless it was intentional (aka Flagrant 1) or flagrant (2). And, then, it would be a T.

Now, if tref said, "...BEFORE returning to the floor ..." we'd have a PC foul in FED and NCAAW and a common foul in NCAAM

[tref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Actually, it would be ignored in all codes, unless it was intentional (aka Flagrant 1) or flagrant (2). And, then, it would be a T.

Now, if tref said, "...BEFORE returning to the floor ..." we'd have a PC foul in FED and NCAAW and a common foul in NCAAM

Before/Upon... endline/baseline... player control/offense

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by tref

Before/Upon

These are not the same.

[tref]

Okay, if a shooter scores on a try & crashes into the defender BEFORE returning to the playing surface then we dont count the basket because of a p/c foul in HS.

Around here you can really tell when people dont have a game to work.

Time for Facebook...

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by tref

Okay, if a shooter scores on a try & crashes into the defender BEFORE returning to the playing surface then we dont count the basket because of a p/c foul in HS.

Agreed -- as several said in the first few responses.

Around here you can really tell when people dont have a game to work.

Because they try to pass antonyms off as synonyms? And cover it up with multiple emoticons?

[tref]

Around here you can really tell when people dont have a game to work.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Because they try to pass antonyms off as synonyms? And cover it up with multiple emoticons?

Not at all, I have a game tomorrow & Saturday.

[Adam]

Wow, this thread lasted 12 extra posts because of linguistic issues.

Awesome!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by tref

Time for Facebook...

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[Freddy]

Originally Posted by tref

Okay, if a shooter scores on a try & crashes into the defender BEFORE returning to the playing surface then we dont count the basket because of a p/c foul in HS.

How does that jive with 4-12-6? "Neither team control nor player control exists during a dead ball, a jump ball or when the ball is in flight during a try or tap for goal".

Is that because of 4-19-6: "A player-control foul is a common foul committed by a player while he/she is in control of the ball or by an airborne shooter"?

(Getting picky 'cuz this is being asked of my by a guy I'm mentoring and I don't want to be general with him since I'm teaching him to be specific)

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Freddy

How does that jive with 4-12-6? "Neither team control nor player control exists during a dead ball, a jump ball or when the ball is in flight during a try or tap for goal".

Is that because of 4-19-6: "A player-control foul is a common foul committed by a player while he/she is in control of the ball or by an airborne shooter"?

(Getting picky 'cuz this is being asked of my by a guy I'm mentoring and I don't want to be general with him since I'm teaching him to be specific)

That's it exactly -- it's how you can have a PC foul without having PC.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

That's it exactly -- it's how you can have a PC foul without having PC.

Thank you for that response!

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[constable]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Actually, it would be ignored in all codes, unless it was intentional (aka Flagrant 1) or flagrant (2). And, then, it would be a T.

Now, if tref said, "...BEFORE returning to the floor ..." we'd have a PC foul in FED and NCAAW and a common foul in NCAAM and FIBA

Fixed it for ya!