What would you do?
 

So... HS pregame, your partners states that he "doesnt like defenders sliding under the rim to take charges. It causes many injuries to the airborne shooter." So he will be calling that play like an arc play :eek:

Of course you dont agree, but when he makes 2 calls like this against the home team in the 4th Q what do you do when the same play is presented to you at the other end?

- Similar play, similar call, for game consistency sake?
- Call it by the HS book & give the perception of screwing the home team for the 3rd consecutive time on both ends of the floor?

In the pregame when he said that, I'd be telling him that I'm going to call it the way the book says, and if he wants to deviate from the rules, he's going to have a lot of explaining to do with the coach.

If your partner jumped off the Empire State Building, would you jump off the Empire State Building?

"Never mimic my kicked call"...I'm trying to get plays right.

With that said, if it's a 50/50 type call, I might lean toward the block in that case so home team isn't screwed. But if it's clearly a charge, the home team got screwed 2 times by my partner and 1 by the player who decided to charge in.

Out of curiosity, how did you handle what he said in pregame?

Wait, I thought it was supposed to be a bridge. I don't have my parenting manual with me.

I'd probably just let it go and let him talk.

Unless I'm missing something, "sliding under the rim" implies trying to obtain LGP after the shooter leaves the floor. By the rules, it's a blocking foul, anyway.

Now, if he means before the shooter leaves the floor, we have a problem. In that case, I'll likely say something, and review that rule.

How so? It mentions nothing about the offensive player.

I was shocked & really didnt know what to say as he is the guy in our association as well as one of my jucos.
I just prayed that 1. We wouldnt have that situation 2. I got the first b/c call
Unfortunately, I went 0-2 in the prayer dept :(

It could be worse. I actually had a partner once say, and yes, this is a direct quote: "I take care of the home team, because that's where you get your money."

"I'm just going to call the game according to the rules. Your ruling is not supported. I won't defend your call."

An official that makes up these things like the one above is throwing the crew under the bus.

Maybe you should tell him that too many offensive players are driving into a spot that they should not be driving into and causing injuries so you're going to call them all charges. :rolleyes:

He had major cred with both coaches, they never said a word to him. And when they looked his way, he simply did the MJ vs. Portland shrug (big ol' bucket) & they looked away.

Without mentioning any names, suggest to your association that this general topic be part of the training for next year.

NEVER again!
 

Will do...

What I learned (already knew) was that I need to speak up when I dont agree with something said in pregame, no matter who says it!!

It was a very uncomfortable night of sleep, I felt as though I sold my soul! Watching the film today, we were pretty f'ing consistent, consistently wrong on 3 b/c plays that is :(

I would call my game and move on.

Happy Mother's Day ...
 

Hi Mom.

My response: "Are you talking about a defender who slides in AFTER the shooter has left the floor? - which is a block - or are you talking about a defender who has established LGP under the rim - which would be a charge?

Partner: "Both."

My response: "OK. Can I ask what other rules you aren't going to follow tonight? 3pt line? 5 players for each team? Traveling?"........

then I would wait for his lame excuse...and go work the game like I normally do.

when a coach complains to me that my call wasn't consistent with the previous call, i would just him "that was clearly a charge. feel free to talk to my partner about his calls. he'll be happy to give you his explanation".

Turn it into a "blarge" !

So sorry. Had no idea your mother had jumped off the Empire State Building.

It's in the IAABO parenting manual.

[QUOTE=tref;804743]What I learned (already knew) was that I need to speak up when I dont agree with something said in pregame, no matter who says it!![QUOTE]

If the guy has "major cred" witht he coaches, it's not going to be an issue for you or the crew, and the rest of the story from that game seems to bear that out. People like that are not going to change their minds or opinions if you "speak your mind" in a pre-game. It is really, really hard to change others unless they are open to it. Even if they are 100% wrong, unless they are aware that they are penalized for doing so, either by their assignments or respect from partners/coaches, they will never change, and you get nothing in return for your efforts.

Officiating is supposed to be black and white, but like life, it never really is. The question you pose is great: what should I do in that situation. Unfortunately, there is no best answer. Sounds like you should just call the rule book and live with the inconsistency. Nobody goes out there and tries to do the wrong thing: by trying to be consistent you would be doing what you think is wrong per the rule book. At least you will then feel good about yourself, and have controlled what you can.

Yes, on my next two games with this partner I will let it be known that I'm calling the HS game by HS rules.

You Know Something Funny ???
 

Whenever I work a high school game with a partner who works both high school and college games, the partner who insists on using college rules, and mechanics, usually turns out to be a pretty bad high school official, and a pretty bad college, official.

And, whenever I work a high school game with a partner who works both high school and college games, the partner who insists on using high school rules, and mechanics, usually turns out to be a pretty good high school official, and a pretty good college official.

Funny?

Many, many years ago, I saw the Smothers Brothers in Las Vegas. Dickie asked Tommy, "If everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you jump off a cliff, too?" Tommy replied, "Hunh - not again".