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fullor30 Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:14pm

BC or not?
 
A1 inbounding passes to A2 who jumps from front court catches ball comes down with one foot front court followed by second foot in back court.

BC violation?

Casebook 9.9.1 A calls for a BC violation should A2 catch ball with one foot down in front court followed by second foot in back court. Don't have case book to reference # but throw in caught in air from A2 leaping from frontcourt to backcourt is not back court.

just another ref Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:17pm

Airborne player may catch and land with either foot first straddling the line.

No violation

APG Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:19pm

Rule 9, Section 9

ART. 3 . . . During a jump ball, throw-in or while on defense, a player may legally jump from his/her frontcourt, secure control of the ball with both feet off the floor and return to the floor with one or both feet in the backcourt. The player may make a normal landing and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt or backcourt

fullor30 Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 803764)
Airborne player may catch and land with either foot first straddling the line.

No violation

Thought so, casebook? 9.9.1 E?? Friendly bet, but I wasn't listening to 'while in air' part.

Welpe Mon Dec 12, 2011 09:29am

Here's another one to chew on.

A1 dribbling in her front court when she loses possession and B1 gains possession. B1 loses possession and the ball bounces towards A3, who is standing in her backcourt near her division line. A2 tips the ball in the frontcourt before it goes to A3. A3 touches the ball which is still in her frontcourt and begins her dribble. She is standing in the backcourt but dribbling the ball in the front court when the lead blows her whistle for a backcourt violation.

Was the lead correct?

Bonus points if you can guess the level of ball.

DrPete Mon Dec 12, 2011 09:48am

Once B1 gained possession, then A's team control ended. The tip by A2 does not reestablish team control, so there is no back court violation. Once A3 touches the ball (if she is standing in her backcourt) the ball has backcourt status, thus the ball cannot still be in the frontcourt. She can begin her dribble and she does not fully have front court status until both feet and the ball are across the division line.

Maybe the key discrepancy here is whether B1 actually gained possession, or if it was really just a loose ball so that A's team control never ended. If that's what happened, then it would be BC.

Welpe Mon Dec 12, 2011 09:53am

B1 definitely had possession. Let's just say the trail saw it clearly and was left speechless when the whistle was blown. :cool:

Adam Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:13am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 803836)
B1 definitely had possession. Let's just say the trail saw it clearly and was left speechless when the whistle was blown. :cool:

Where was lead?

Welpe Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:37am

On the endline, free throw lane line extended.

Adam Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:39am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 803855)
On the endline, free throw lane line extended.

That should tell you all you need as well. :(

kwatson Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:03am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 803855)
On the endline, free throw lane line extended.

Oh my! That call would warrant a WTH in the locker room I think.

Welpe Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:19am

I tried to talk her out of the call when it was made but she had no interest in hearing me so I treated it as a GIGDGO.

Thumper68 Mon Dec 12, 2011 05:44pm

Bonus Points
 
For the bonus, I say 7th grade girls "C" game.

BillyMac Mon Dec 12, 2011 08:05pm

Let's Be Specific ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thumper68 (Post 804026)
For the bonus, I say 7th grade girls "C" game.

Was it a "competitive" C game?

Welpe Mon Dec 12, 2011 08:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thumper68 (Post 804026)
For the bonus, I say 7th grade girls "C" game.

Good guess. 8th grade A level.


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