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Chris Whitten Fri Dec 09, 2011 04:55pm

Booking Agent
 
Our booking agent has been booking many single game assignments lately (in multi-game venues). Never having been a booking agent, I don't understand why this would be preferable. As an official, I would rather call a couple per night and work less nights. Some of you folks who have been BAs care to shed some insight? We are in a metropolitan area, so travel is not an issue.

stiffler3492 Fri Dec 09, 2011 05:17pm

I just started working for a particular assignor this season. My first game for him, I had a single boy's game. I noticed during the game that two more teams were getting ready to take the court. I asked my partner..."I thought we only had one game, right?"

He said yes that's right. He said this particular assignor does not like to schedule officials for back to back boy's games. Maybe that's the case in your situation?

Ignats75 Sat Dec 10, 2011 01:56pm

Around here (northern Ohio) Girls play Wednesday/Saturday and Boys play Tuesday/Friday.(with exceptions but always separately) At most the schedule will be FR/JV/V. Varsity officials NEVER do more than one game. Some assignors will give the FR/JV officials the double header. Some conferences do have Freshman games on a different day and have B/G doubleheaders.

JRutledge Sat Dec 10, 2011 02:02pm

We have conference assignors, not booking agents (not that I know what that really means anyway). We have so many officials that you do not need to hire one crew to work multiple games, at least not at the HS level. Not if you want your staff to get experience or work with different people. Of course some lower level games are doubleheaders like a Freshman A and B game night on like a Monday. But when you work on varsity nights, all officials usually work one game. And honestly that is the way it should be. It is better for the officials and the kids if you ask me.

Peace

26 Year Gap Sat Dec 10, 2011 02:05pm

In VT, our assignors did not want to have us perceived as JV officials, so we only worked those types of games if we weren't going to see the V teams at all that season. For example, I worked some DI girls' games, but none at the DI boys' level. So, I might do a handful of games in a gym where I would not be seen by DI girls' coaches on a JVB game.

Here in FL, we may or may not have DHs. I had 2 this week and one last week. But, I had probably a half dozen by this point in time last season.

It may be an effort to make sure everybody is working, too. Complaints about not getting many games are not like complaints about not getting any DHs. Neither is good, but the second complaint might indicate that the monetary angle is more important than it should be.

BktBallRef Sat Dec 10, 2011 03:05pm

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Originally Posted by Chris Whitten (Post 803234)
Our booking agent has been booking many single game assignments lately (in multi-game venues). Never having been a booking agent, I don't understand why this would be preferable. As an official, I would rather call a couple per night and work less nights. Some of you folks who have been BAs care to shed some insight? We are in a metropolitan area, so travel is not an issue.

Do you get a double game fee when you work back to back games or do you work a doubleheader for less than what two games would normally pay?

SNIPERBBB Sat Dec 10, 2011 03:17pm

My part of the state the varsity guys only do one game, though some leagues will have just one crew for a girls jv / v doubleheader.

Ignats75 Sat Dec 10, 2011 04:13pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 803399)
Do you get a double game fee when you work back to back games or do you work a doubleheader for less than what two games would normally pay?

They get 2 full game fees. i.e 35.00 for frosh and 40.00 for jv. Better deal than the V guys!!!!!

Adam Sat Dec 10, 2011 04:18pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 803399)
Do you get a double game fee when you work back to back games or do you work a doubleheader for less than what two games would normally pay?

We get two separation game fees plus the mileage stipend for one trip. When I was in Iowa, the second game was worked at a discount.

Welpe Sat Dec 10, 2011 04:21pm

Subvarsity assignmets are usually double headers. Varsity games are usually assigned individually. We are paid mileage here and the schools don't want to pay more than they have to plus we don't have enough officials to have a new set come on for each subvarsity game.

BktBallRef Sat Dec 10, 2011 06:28pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 803416)
We get two separation game fees plus the mileage stipend for one trip. When I was in Iowa, the second game was worked at a discount.

Which is why I asked. It varies from area to area.

If there's a discount for working both games, many booking agents will send a crew for each game.

BillyMac Sat Dec 10, 2011 06:39pm

In The Land Of Steady Habits ....
 
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 803447)
It varies from area to area.

Around here, the most common setup is a freshman game at 4:00 p.m., a junior varsity game at 5:30 p.m., and a varsity game at 7:00 p.m. Almost all games are two person games. Varsity officials will just work the one varsity game, always. Subvarsity officials may work a doubleheader, depending on the availability of officials on that particular date, at those times.

No doubleheader "discounts". All varsity game fees are $88.28 for each official. All subvarsity game fees, all the way down to middle school games, are $57.25 for each official. No mileage.

refiator Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:13am

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 803418)
Subvarsity assignmets are usually double headers. Varsity games are usually assigned individually. We are paid mileage here and the schools don't want to pay more than they have to plus we don't have enough officials to have a new set come on for each subvarsity game.

In Georgia (at least in Atlanta), it is typically the opposite. 1 JV (sometimes 2, depending on the teams. Often boys and girls play simultaneous games in separate gyms).
Varsity games are always played girls/boys double header with 3 officials. Occasionally 1 of the JV refs is a varsity ref and works the 2 Varsity games as well as the single JV game.

BktBallRef Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:16am

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Originally Posted by refiator (Post 803512)
In Georgia (at least in Atlanta), it is typically the opposite. 1 JV (sometimes 2, depending on the teams. Often boys and girls play simultaneous games in separate gyms).
Varsity games are always played girls/boys double header with 3 officials.

That's the way it works here as well.

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Occasionally 1 of the JV refs is a varsity ref and works the 2 Varsity games as well as the single JV game.
Ouch! No desire to work 3 games/5 hours of basketball.

SCalScoreKeeper Sun Dec 11, 2011 02:53pm

Here in my area of SoCal we assign crews a maximum of two games.For instance my school is a JV/Var only school.So on nights where everyone is together two officials get the JV Girls and JV Boys games while another crew comes in and does the varsity games. During our tournaments the first two days are 4 crews (2 man) and last week in our girls tourney they sent us three crews on the last day (1 for 7'th and 5'th place games,1 for the third place game,and another for the final).For the boys tourney they sent us two crews on the last day (1 did 7'th and 5'th place games,the other 3'rd and Final).


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