coaching box
 

NF Rules. High School game in Virginia. The home school does not have the coaching boxes marked. The home school did not want to put down tape afraid it would hurt the new floor finish. The R told both teams that since no boxes were marked the visiting team coach could stand but the home team coach had to sit. Anybody ever heard of this rule and if so where is it written?

A Floor You Could Eat Off Of?
 

No. It isn't.

1-13-2 states the rule, but book is silent about any sort of consequence of breach of it. Casebook 1-13-1 speaks of reporting the situation to your state association, but that is regarding a bench location issue.
Around here we put down the tape and reported these oversights to the state, and the lack of lines was taken care of soon thereafter. Can't think of a gym that isn't permanently marked now.

Of course, "When in Nome, do as the Nomans do." Although you mentioned "NF rules", your state may handle it the way you cited.

This is the policy in some states, at least one.

Still The One (Orleans) ???
 

True in the Constitution State:

The Coaching Box must be marked. It is measured 28 feet from the end
line toward midcourt, then 14 feet down back towards the end line. Only
head coaches are permitted to stand during play. If home management
refuses to mark the coaching boxes with tape, the home team head coach
must remain seated for the entire game. However, the visiting team head
coach will be allowed to stand in an area designated by the officials.

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In Illinois it's simple, no boxes means the coaches have to sit.

NFHS R10-S5-A1 (Head Coach's Rule), known in layman's terms as the Seat Belt Rule, has been virtually unchanged since the NBCUSA adopted it for boys'/girl's high school and men's college competition in 1970-71. Of course it was never enforced at the men's college level and when the NBCUSA split into the NFHS Basketball Rules and NCAA Basketball Rules Committees the NCAA Committee dropped the rule.

The rule as written is a seat belt rule but with a provision that a StateHSAA can adopt a Coaching (not Coach's ) Box with the stipulation that the CB be marked, even if a StateHSAA adopts a CB, if it not marked at both benches the "Seat Belt Rule" prevails for both teams.

MTD,Sr.

Unless you're in Connecticut, Mark. I like their approach, actually, as it gives some incentive for the schools to paint it properly.

Seat Belts Save Lives ...
 

Unless you're one of those rare coaches, and there are a small few, who don't do a lot of standing in a game, and actually do much of their coaching from their seat on the bench. I run into one, or two, of them almost every season. It could actually create some type of small advantage to have half of their games, i.e., home games, played under "Seat Belt" rules. So, in these rare cases, it might be an incentive for school, with such a coach, to not paint the lines.

My school has it marked properly but most of our officials just count off plastic chairs on the bench as the box.In our case 7 chairs from the chair closest to the table form the 14 ft box.

This is just a rule they need to get rid of. Let the damn coaches roam the sideline. What difference does it make. As long as they stay with the 28 foot mark, why do we care where they stand or sit? I am so sick and tired of this stupid rule. It just becomes a distraction to where our focus really should be.

Peace

It doesn't really matter what size you make it, they'd still have a range they'd be limited to and we'd still have SOME point that we'd have to enforce. 28' to baseline, fine, you'd still have to keep them in that area.

Jack In the Box ...
 

Talk about distractions. I don't like it when coaches get too close to the table, and either purposely, or accidentally, get in my way as I report fouls to the table, or look toward the table for incoming substitutes.

Nothing more challenging than trying to report a foul "through" a coach who is about ready to be charged with a technical foul, or is politely "pleading" his case to me.

For all I care, if they change the rule and let them mosey on down to the endline, that wouldn't bother me one bit, but until the NFHS changes the rule, I'm enforcing the present rule, when it comes to my attention, which is usually when he's "yelling" at me. If he's not "yelling", I really don't pay too much attention to a couple of lines on the court, except the the couple of times a year when he gets in my way as I'm about to become the new lead.

I do agree, but at least it would not be a smaller area and often the 28 foot mark would be a good starting point. Most courts already have that mark and the problem is that the other marking is usually a problem.

Peace

I don't understand why schools don't paint that in. FCOL, this was a newly painted floor, and they didn't put it in. I don't get it.

There is a school in our area which recently had its floor, among other things, redone, after damage from a tornado. The floor is immaculate. The coaching boxes are in their proper places, but the benches are not. They straddle the division line, one on each side of the court.

So move the chairs to the same side of the court where the coaches boxes are...? What am I missing here?

I don't get it either. I can't even picture what it looks like.

The floor was painted like any other floor, with the boxes where the benches would normally be. The gym itself, however, has a unique design. The bleachers are raised above the level of the floor. The benches are one piece wooden, and are set on opposite sides of the floor straddling the division line.
The home bench is directly in front of the scorer's table. Visitors are on the opposite side. The benches sit in a recessed area in the wall at the base of the bleachers built for that purpose. The rest of the sideline area, including where the boxes are, probably is not wide enough to accommodate a bench.

So if the visiting team wants to send in a substitute, do they run across the court to report to the scorer's table??? or run around the end of the court???
I don't get it either, not for basketball.
If the court isn't marked for the coaches' boxes, and they don't want to put down tape, then we also use the home coach sits and visiting coach can stand application.

When In Seaford, Virginia, Do As Seaford, Virginians Do ...
 

Check your local listings.

They have a designated spot at the end of their own bench for subs to stand and be recognized. Not in any book you would read, but that's the way it is. There is another school nearby where the table is raised probably 8 to 10 feet above the level of the court. When a sub comes to the x, he is easily overlooked, so they installed a light on the table with a switch down below for the sub to flip to alert them.

Half the time you cannot get the a player to go to the X on the court when the benches are on the same side. I doubt that works well in this description.

Peace

That is the standard Virginia interp. In fact, it's usually includes that the visiting coach can go from endline to 28' mark as his box.

:clap: I agree. I generally tell coaches during the coach's meeting that If they aren't yelling at us, we aren't looking at them.

Same procedure is used in TN. TN uses a 6 foot coach's area, we had a school that built a new gym and marked 14 foot CAs. School did not want to add a tape line at 6 foot. TSSAA was asked for a ruling and they notified the School and the Association that if the school did not correct the CAs that the home coach would set and the visiting coach could use the 14 foot CA.
The fixed the lines. :rolleyes: