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BillyMac Thu Dec 01, 2011 06:06pm

4-1-1 Please ???
 
I had a debate last night at our monthly board meeting with a colleague. He believes that the throwin after a technical foul can take place on either side (scorers table, or opposite scorers table) of the division line. I know, for a fact, that it must take place on the division line opposite the table (NFHS 7-5). I also know that, way back before some of your were born, the rule was that the throwin could legally occur on either side. My rule books only go back to 1996-97. Do any of you grizzled veterans know when this rule changed to only the side opposite the table?

Scrapper1 Thu Dec 01, 2011 06:08pm

From the title of your thread, I thought you had a question about the airborne shooter definition.

(And I don't know when the throw-in spot changed. Sorry)

Camron Rust Thu Dec 01, 2011 06:11pm

When it changed, if it ever did, I don't know.

But currently, either side is not just his imagination....

NFHS: Opposite Only
NCAA: Either side (for those that are not POI).

BillyMac Thu Dec 01, 2011 06:35pm

He's Bi ...
 
Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 801136)
When it changed, if it ever did, I don't know. But currently, either side is not just his imagination....
NFHS: Opposite Only
NCAA: Either side (for those that are not POI).

It did change. That's a fact Jack.

But now I see why he believes this. He does both NFHS, and NCAA, games. That's why he's confused. He's a pretty smart guy, and a good official. I couldn't figure out why he screwed up this simple rule. Now I know. Thanks Camron Rust

BillyMac Thu Dec 01, 2011 06:44pm

Speaking Of Grizzled Veterans ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 801131)
Do any of you grizzled veterans know when this rule changed to only the side opposite the table?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 801133)
I don't know when the throw-in spot changed.

Hey Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: How about a little help here? It's only December 1. Your attic can't be that cold.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Dec 01, 2011 08:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 801150)
Hey Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: How about a little help here? It's only December 1. Your attic can't be that cold.


It isn't too cold but I just got home thirty minutes ago from officiating a girls' JrHS DH with Junior and I really don't feel like climbing up there at this time of night, and I really remember when the change was made in the NFHS Rules.

That said, until the NFHS changed its rules (and the NCAA went wacko with all of its different classes of TF and POI horse manure nonsense) the NBCUSC (later NFHS and NCAA) the Captain (notice, not the Head Coach) of the team entitled to the throw-in had the right to choose from which side of the court his team would take the throw-in.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. The rules specificaly stated that it was the Captain's choice and not the choice of the game officials. And while the NCAA Rules are currently silent on the subject it would be correct from a historical standpoint to ask the Captain from which side he wants his team to take the throw-in.


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