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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 12:18am
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Florida St. v. Michigan State Game too!!!!

Then there was another call made in FSU v. MSU game too. A throw from the end line and the MSU player bobbles the ball and then the ball falls into the BC and the official calls a violation. Well at least they get together and discuss the situation and get the call right.

Man it has not been a good night for the officials in the Big Ten-ACC Challenge that is for sure.

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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 12:47am
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Saw that one. The official looked really unsure of himself when he called it.

Thought Ted Valentine standing in front of Izzo was comical.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 02:33am
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Here's the play in question. No doubt an incorrect call:

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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 03:10am
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Thanks man. Can you get the MSU play I was referring to as well?

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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 03:18am
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Thanks man. Can you get the MSU play I was referring to as well?

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I remember the play, but not the time when it occurred. If you can get that, it'd make it a lot easier.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 03:37am
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Hmm...

Not saying was the right call to make, but is it possible the calling official looked at this as PC when he muffed the catch with both hands, then appears to get one dribble in before the ball goes into BC.

Wondering if his interp of what he saw was a controlled dribble prior to the ball/player entering BC. ?

Even still, not much control to the dribble, dunno if I could make that call.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 03:48am
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Hmm...

Not saying was the right call to make, but is it possible the calling official looked at this as PC when he muffed the catch with both hands, then appears to get one dribble in before the ball goes into BC.

Wondering if his interp of what he saw was a controlled dribble prior to the ball/player entering BC. ?

Even still, not much control to the dribble, dunno if I could make that call.
No one knows what the official thought process was on the play. Perhaps he was reading the NFHS rules book and didn't see the NFHS slide show or interpretations and ruled it just from reading the rule book.

I'm sure after looking at the tape, he wishes he could have the call back because that wouldn't be a backcourt violation under NFHS, NCAA, or NBA (final two minutes of the 4th/OT).
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 03:40am
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I remember the play, but not the time when it occurred. If you can get that, it'd make it a lot easier.
It was a highlight on ESPN SportsCenter, that is all I know. I do not know the exact time as I did not see it live.

I just saw the highlight again. The play took place at 8:30 in the first half.

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Thought Ted Valentine standing in front of Izzo was comical.
Can't say that I liked it. Anyhow, here's the play:

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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 06:11am
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APG,

We all appreciate you posting the vids.

I'm curious about the lack of audio. Is there a way to have audio in your clips?
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 11:42am
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APG,

We all appreciate you posting the vids.

I'm curious about the lack of audio. Is there a way to have audio in your clips?
I intentionally mute the audio...don't need to listen to the announcers.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 12:06pm
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I'm glad to see this post this morning. Watching game on tv last night, I thought the call was wrong, but figured it was an NCAA rule of team possession/control on a throw in. You guys are saying not so what's up? I had sound down on tv and didn't hear any discussion about it. Wonder if Bobby Knight had anything to say..I think he was doing game. Like someone else posted, the VT coach seemed to accept it without much argument, but it was a rather huge play, with VT setting up last shot down by one. Come out of TO and that's what happens? Ouch
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 12:19pm
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Chances are the announcers will take what they saw last night and project it, assuming the call was correct. They're more likely to criticize future refs who don't make that call.
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Thought Ted Valentine standing in front of Izzo was comical.
Wow...Teddy. Really!!! I'm still laughing. The only thing that would have made that better if is Izzo would have flopped to the floor on Ted's "incidental contact" on the block out.
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Must be pretty embarrassing for the calling official when the call is corrected. How the @#$@#$ do you explain that screw up. "Uh coach I messed up. I don't know basic definitions".

Yup, not knowing rule 4 kinda is not a good thing. At least at that level.
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