HS Teams entering Gym for warm-ups
 

Can't see if there has been a post on this. Our officiating group is aware of the Point of Emphasis of teams entering the gym for warm-ups are not to circle the gym prior to warm-ups and go directly to their end of the gym, but we can't find a consequence if a team does this. Give them a verbal warning, then report it to our officials association? Give them a technical to start the game? How are others handling this

"Do not do that" and report to association

That's how we have been told to handle it

-Josh

They want us to give a T and be on the court when teams enter.

Peace

Did this at at Thansgiving tournament last weekend.

I did it last year to both teams in the same game. Fun times man, fun times.

Peace

Ditto. My partner sprinted to prevent a team from doing this the other night. Unfortunately, this was the team that I visited about 2 weeks ago, and one of the points I expressly emphasized to them.
We had a pre-season game where both teams did this, and I suggested to the R that both teams could get Ts, both coaches would sit for the entire game, and we still would begin with a jump ball. He was very tempted.....

Just following the rules......
 

Big meanie! Consistent though!

"Hey coach, I called it at both ends!" :D

Where in the rule book?
 

I understand giving a technical for teams doing this as a warm-up, but where in the rule book could you refer to as giving you authority to do this?

Unsportsmanlike conduct...if that's what your association deems this action to be.

Where in the officials' manual (or rule book) is it stated that the floor officials must be present on the court when the teams come on the court?

Doesn't matter if it's in the rules book or mechanics book if the accepted practice in one's state/conference/association dictates that officials be on the floor before hand.

If you have paid any attention to things I say here, we do not use the official's manual and we do not work for the NF. The NF does not dictate what we do here (or anywhere for that matter) as officials and what procedures we follow.

I think I have said this before. ;)

Peace

ok, so then what's the IAABO state then since not using NF Mechanics?

Or the IHSA?

I know nothing about IAABO as we are not members around here as a requirement.

I stated what the IHSA said already.

Why don't you tell us what the Washington does in this manner? (Please don't).

Peace

How can I answer a question when I do not know the answer?

I am used to seeing the floor officials arrive on the court after the teams have started to warmup (18:00-16:00 left in warm-up)

Not saying that is correct or incorrect however.

Well you seem to have answers for other things you do not know about, so why is this any different? ;)

That being said it is not typical for schools to put more than 15:00 on the clock in my experience. The goal is to get out on the floor before the teams enter. Not always easy to do, but that is the attempt.

Peace

standard procedure here (except for tournaments with approval from court director/tournament director) is 20 minute warm-up (from what I have witnessed). But then other schools in the area might run things differently.

How did that work? Was one before the first half and one before the second?

Both happened before the game started. We tried to stop it, but the second team decided to go around the court.

Peace

I'm still confused. It's only a T to run under the basket when the other team is out there. So, the first team out can run around the entire court. The second team has to go the shortest route to, and remain in, their half of the court.

Not so in WA
 

The interpretation in WA is that each team must stay on their side of the floor during warm up whether or not the other team is present. So, you could have two Ts to start the game.

Their half of court
 

is the only restriction, right? Had a middle school ref tell me last night the team not only had to warm up on their HALF of court, but could not gather/huddle/chant in center jump circle, even if they stayed on their side. I told him I did not think he was correct. Was I wrong?

Teams never leave the court during warmups in your area?

Yes that is the NF interpretation. Now your state might have other guidelines as to if and when that is true. But those were on PowerPoint slides from the NF directly.

Peace

They both came out of the same tunnel and the first team ran around the entire court, the home team who was the second split the court and ran around the court as well. They cannot do this at all not matter who is out there. And if the team vacates the area before the game, the team cannot play on the other side of the court with the same penalty.

Peace

I e-mailed WIAA and asked what their stance was concerning this. Here's the response:

So basically before the officials take the floor, it's up to game management to make sure that does not happen. If a team does take the full lap to start their warm-ups it's game management's responsibility to notify the floor officials.