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Old Wed Nov 09, 2011, 09:59pm
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Do not ignore, if you are close to the coach, ask him if he is sure he wants a timeout. After the final timeout prior to this request, you or your partner should've notified him that he had none left. I give each coach the courtesy when they request at a time that may not be optimal for their situation prior to administering the TO. In this case, you grant it, then "T" the coach.
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Old Wed Nov 09, 2011, 10:25pm
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No, not the coach!

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Do not ignore, if you are close to the coach, ask him if he is sure he wants a timeout. After the final timeout prior to this request, you or your partner should've notified him that he had none left. I give each coach the courtesy when they request at a time that may not be optimal for their situation prior to administering the TO. In this case, you grant it, then "T" the coach.
It's not on the coach. Administrative. That's why I was saying on another thread to review that chart in the pregame or have a copy at the table.
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Old Wed Nov 09, 2011, 10:46pm
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While you should indeed inform a coach that he has no timeouts left, isn't it ultimately the coach's responsibility to know that?
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While you should indeed inform a coach that he has no timeouts left, isn't it ultimately the coach's responsibility to know that?
It's required.
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While you should indeed inform a coach that he has no timeouts left, isn't it ultimately the coach's responsibility to know that?
The requirement is the scorer to inform the coach through the official. If they do not tell you then you may not tell them. But I have yet to have a game where the coaches did not know their status or did not have easier access than the officials. That is why they have 10 assistant coaches in the first place right?

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Old Thu Nov 10, 2011, 01:13am
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If that is the situation, the R could request a new scorer. Anyone at the table can be replaced if they misapply a rule concerning their duties/responsibilities.


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The requirement is the scorer to inform the coach through the official. If they do not tell you then you may not tell them. But I have yet to have a game where the coaches did not know their status or did not have easier access than the officials. That is why they have 10 assistant coaches in the first place right?

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Old Thu Nov 10, 2011, 01:19am
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If that is the situation, the R could request a new scorer. Anyone at the table can be replaced if they misapply a rule concerning their duties/responsibilities.
Did you really comment about this? Seriously?

I do not care if they tell me or not, the coach better know their situation with all their assistant coaches they have on their bench.

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Old Thu Nov 10, 2011, 01:56pm
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Did you really comment about this? Seriously?

I do not care if they tell me or not, the coach better know their situation with all their assistant coaches they have on their bench.

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One of the duties/responsibilities of the scorer is to:

NOTIFY THE NEARER OFFICIAL WHEN:
1. The bonus penalty is in effect for the seventh, eighth and ninth
team foul in each half. The bonus display indicates a second free
throw is awarded for all common fouls (other than player-control)
if the first free throw is successful. The proper bonus panel, such
as (H for home and V for visitor) shall be displayed after the
penalty for the sixth team foul has been administered. Another
method is to activate a light or device nearest the basket of the
team which is to receive the bonus.
2. The tenth team foul occurs each half. Thereafter, the bonus
(second free throw) is awarded for a common foul (except playercontrol)
whether or not the first is successful.
3. Any player is charged with his or her fifth foul (personal or tech -
nical), the second technical foul is charged to any team member,
bench personnel, directly to the head coach, or the third technical
foul is charged to the head coach.
4. Either team has been granted its allotted charged time-outs or an excess time-out.
5. The ball is dead or in control of offending players team if:
a. Player has not reported.
b. Player’s number changed.
c. Player is illegally in game.
6. The ball is dead, if there is a score dispute or doubt about an
official’s decision.
7. Any player enters while wearing an illegal number.
8. The ball is dead and the clock is stopped or running, if the coach
requests that a correctable error as in 2-10, or a timing, scoring
or alternating-possession mistake be prevented or rectified.

So the scorer is also supposed to notify the nearest official when the team has no more time outs left.

True, being there is little time left in the game there is not much sense in replacing the official scorer.

Also if the HC or the AC/s are not keeping track of their own TOs, it's on them for requesting excess TOs.
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Old Thu Nov 10, 2011, 10:51am
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If that is the situation, the R could request a new scorer. Anyone at the table can be replaced if they misapply a rule concerning their duties/responsibilities.
Long answer: No.
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