How many Technical Fouls

[srp6977]

How many technical fouls can a coach get? I know easy one, they get two and then are ejected from the game.

Had this come up in a discussion last night and can't find the answer. Situation was coach got two quick T's for arguing and then wanted to linger and not leave the floor. Dropped a couple of F' words on the way out. When he throws the F' words can you continue to T him up? Forfeit?

Can't find anywhere that there is a "maximum" number of technical fouls that can be given. Had a couple of Officials in the group who said they would continue giving technical fouls and others who said they would call a forfeit if he did not leave soon enough.

Thanks,

[Refsmitty]

2 directs or 3 total = ejection

I would T him up again on his way out if he used the F bomb with me

[Adam]

If the coach is refusing to leave, inform the clock to give you 60 seconds. Then tell the coach if after the 60 seconds is expired, you can still see him, you will forfeit the game.

If the coach is leaving and offers some advice you can't ignore, there's no rule that prevents you from issuing another T to the team (NFHS). I wouldn't drop this hammer unless you have to, though. NCAA is different, I believe there is a limit on how many you can give the coach.

[mbyron]

Yes, you can (and should) continue to T him up for profanity. This behavior also warrants a report to the state (or league, if it's not a school game). There is no maximum number of technical fouls, and if a coach thinks he gets a pass because he has been ejected, he can continue to hurt his team all the way out the door.

The penalty for 2 direct technical fouls on the coach is ejection. Failure to comply with any technical foul penalty is grounds for forfeit under 5-4-1.

[bob jenkins]

Forfeit should be way down the list of items to consider. You'll want to be clear that you tried all other options.

(That said, I've used it once -- with something like 3 seconds to go and the team behind by >10 points.)

[JRutledge]

There is no limit as to how many you can give by rule. Usually I have not heard of any more than 3 directly in actual game situations. Actually this is really up to those in your area of if there is a standard that they may hold. I think 3 personally is enough if after you have ejected a coach and they go over the top. Anything more is probably redundant as for me this would go in a report about the ejection and all of those actions would be included.

Peace

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There is no limit as to how many you can give by rule. Usually I have not heard of any more than 3 directly in actual game situations. Actually this is really up to those in your area of if there is a standard that they may hold. I think 3 personally is enough if after you have ejected a coach and they go over the top. Anything more is probably redundant as for me this would go in a report about the ejection and all of those actions would be included.

Peace

during my Sr. yr of HS....officials tells my coach: "1 more word out of you - it's a T"....my coach responds: "F U!"...whack!.....coach says something else....whack!....then: wack!, wack!, wack!, wack!, and....wack!....all before he hit the locker room door.....that's right - 7 T's in all!!

the other team brought subs off the bench to shoot the FT's....each player got to shoot 1 FT.....

pretty funny to look back on....not so funny when it happened.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

during my Sr. yr of HS....officials tells my coach: "1 more word out of you - it's a T"....my coach responds: "F U!"...whack!.....coach says something else....whack!....then: wack!, wack!, wack!, wack!, and....wack!....all before he hit the locker room door.....that's right - 7 T's in all!!

the other team brought subs off the bench to shoot the FT's....each player got to shoot 1 FT.....

pretty funny to look back on....not so funny when it happened.

Sounds like a "Forget Paris" moment.

Peace

[just another ref]

Had one forfeit myself. Jr. high game. Coach had already been ejected. Principal had taken over on the bench. Time out with less than 10 seconds left, apparently for the sole purpose of letting him show his ***.

"This is the second time I've seen you throw a game."

whack

"Good, why don't you call another one?"

whack

"Why don't you just go to hell?"

game over

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Had one forfeit myself. Jr. high game. Coach had already been ejected. Principal had taken over on the bench. Time out with less than 10 seconds left, apparently for the sole purpose of letting him show his ***.

"This is the second time I've seen you throw a game."

whack

"Good, why don't you call another one?"

whack

"Why don't you just go to hell?"

game over

Sounds good to me.

Peace

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

during my Sr. yr of HS....officials tells my coach: "1 more word out of you - it's a T"....my coach responds: "F U!"...whack!.....coach says something else....whack!....then: wack!, wack!, wack!, wack!, and....wack!....all before he hit the locker room door.....that's right - 7 T's in all!!

the other team brought subs off the bench to shoot the FT's....each player got to shoot 1 FT.....

pretty funny to look back on....not so funny when it happened.

There are stories where I think, "That's interesting," or, "that's fun," but then there are stories like this where I really wish I could have seen it in person.

Nice.

A few years back I was watching a V boys game in a tournament before I started my games and saw a coach get two quick ones, followed by earning a third on his way out the door, but that's the worst I've ever witnessed.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Had one forfeit myself. Jr. high game. Coach had already been ejected. Principal had taken over on the bench. Time out with less than 10 seconds left, apparently for the sole purpose of letting him show his ***.

"This is the second time I've seen you throw a game."

whack

"Good, why don't you call another one?"

whack

"Why don't you just go to hell?"

game over

Throwing a jr high game. I'm sure there were several lollipops and a few pixie sticks riding on the result of this game. My goodness.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If the coach is leaving and offers some advice you can't ignore, there's no rule that prevents you from issuing another T to the team (NFHS).

Is there a rule we can cite that makes this a team technical? It makes sense, as I don't think you should penalize the bench and the "new" head coach with indirects, but what can we cite? 10-1-8?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Is there a rule we can cite that makes this a team technical? It makes sense, as I don't think you should penalize the bench and the "new" head coach with indirects, but what can we cite? 10-1-8?

I don't know of a specific rule that tells us what his status is once he's been DQd.

He is one of two things here: the head coach or a team supporter. Once he ceases to be the HC, he's a team supporter who has been ejected from the gym.

If he's still the HC, they're all his. If he's a supporter, they're team techs.

Either way, I'm not hitting the new HC with an indirect.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

I've given three to one player once, in rec league. Actually I only gave the second and the third. After I tossed him (#2) he went to the bench, gathered his stuff, and walked across the door toward the exit. He chose a path to go by me and whispered some magic words to me.