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grunewar Tue Oct 25, 2011 05:26am

No Exam Chatter?
 
What gives?

Took my test yesterday and was happy to say I found it easier than most years. Am I getting used to it? Smarter? More experienced? Unsure - don't care.

I found fewer issues with what I perceived as confusing terminology in my version - less of the "should", "could", "will", "may," "might" type splitting of hairs. More straight forward IMO

Only 50 questions this yr (for us anyhow). Still the usual "uniform police" questions and several in the area of Team Control and Throw-ins for me.

Overall, another yr behind me for that. Now, let the scrimmages begin!

26 Year Gap Tue Oct 25, 2011 06:14am

Mine is in about 10 days or so. Fewer trick questions. At least down here. I think it is a combination of a number of things which includes having a broader base of knowledge to recognize what is correct and what is not.

Raymond Tue Oct 25, 2011 08:25am

NCAA test was a piece of cake, I ran through the 35 questions in about 30 minutes and got a 94 (33 of 35). I know one of the ones I missed b/c it was one of those "always/never" questions.

I'm doing the FED test right without books in front me. I'm flagging all the ones I need to check the book for, which so far is quite a few :o

grunewar Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 795767)
I'm doing the FED test right without books in front me. I'm flagging all the ones I need to check the book for, which so far is quite a few :o

Took me ~90 minutes to do the FED Test. I looked up fewer answers than previous yrs......of course, apparently, I should have looked at a few more.......

JRutledge Tue Oct 25, 2011 01:00pm

A lot of states stopped taking the NF test, so I am sure that is why there is not much talk about the test. We still have to wait about a week before our test is even available. We are in a different time I guess.

Peace

M&M Guy Tue Oct 25, 2011 01:21pm

Anybody got the answers?

;) :)

JRutledge Tue Oct 25, 2011 01:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 795814)
Anybody got the answers?

;) :)

November 1st you can pick A, B, C and D. :D

Peace

Raymond Tue Oct 25, 2011 02:18pm

Got a 96 on FED test...based on the rules referenced I missed one of them b/c I mis-read the question.

dsqrddgd909 Tue Oct 25, 2011 02:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 795756)
What gives?

Took my test yesterday and was happy to say I found it easier than most years. Am I getting used to it? Smarter? More experienced? Unsure - don't care.

I found fewer issues with what I perceived as confusing terminology in my version - less of the "should", "could", "will", "may," "might" type splitting of hairs. More straight forward IMO

Only 50 questions this yr (for us anyhow). Still the usual "uniform police" questions and several in the area of Team Control and Throw-ins for me.

Overall, another yr behind me for that. Now, let the scrimmages begin!

Took the 50 question test KS requires. No results until Nov. 22.

SNIPERBBB Tue Oct 25, 2011 04:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 795813)
A lot of states stopped taking the NF test, so I am sure that is why there is not much talk about the test. We still have to wait about a week before our test is even available. We are in a different time I guess.

Peace

Here in Ohio, you take the test with an open book to get your license. After 2 or more years when you are eligible and want to be able to do Varsity, you take the test again but its closed book.

After that you never have to do the test again unless you let your license lapse.

DrPete Tue Oct 25, 2011 06:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 795830)
Got a 96 on FED test...based on the rules referenced I missed one of them b/c I mis-read the question.

Ha, I got a 96 on the NFHS test too! I learned something (new to me) from one of my errors, and still don't know the correct answer to the other one I think I missed.

BillyMac Tue Oct 25, 2011 06:42pm

Up For Discussion ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 795891)
Don't know the correct answer to the other one I think I missed.

Give us a crack at it.

DrPete Tue Oct 25, 2011 07:38pm

The rules reference was concerning successive time outs. I think (thought) I understood what they are, and when you can and can't have one .... maybe I just misread (or mis-answered???) the question. Do "they" ever make mistakes on the correct answers for these tests?

fiasco Tue Oct 25, 2011 09:31pm

I lost my practice test. Anyone have the questions?

grunewar Wed Oct 26, 2011 05:47am

Wow!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909 (Post 795843)
Took the 50 question test KS requires. No results until Nov. 22.

After I hit "submit," I had my results almost instantaneously.

It tells us the areas we missed (4-3), but not the specific question.

Says, we'll be able to review our specific test results/questions in Dec - after testing is over.

vbzebra Wed Oct 26, 2011 06:00am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 795767)
NCAA test was a piece of cake, I ran through the 35 questions in about 30 minutes and got a 94 (33 of 35). I know one of the ones I missed b/c it was one of those "always/never" questions.

let me guess...did it also have the words "calling official" and "opposite"? I think that got me too...:o

Raymond Wed Oct 26, 2011 07:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 795891)
Ha, I got a 96 on the NFHS test too! I learned something (new to me) from one of my errors, and still don't know the correct answer to the other one I think I missed.

Shoot me an email Pete.

Raymond Wed Oct 26, 2011 07:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbzebra (Post 795932)
let me guess...did it also have the words "calling official" and "opposite"? I think that got me too...:o

Hmmmm :D

bob jenkins Wed Oct 26, 2011 08:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbzebra (Post 795932)
let me guess...did it also have the words "calling official" and "opposite"? I think that got me too...:o

Is that the NCAAM or the NCAAW test?

Raymond Wed Oct 26, 2011 08:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 795974)
Is that the NCAAM or the NCAAW test?

Men's

Lcubed48 Mon Oct 31, 2011 08:08am

And the answer is?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 795830)
Got a 96 on FED test...based on the rules referenced I missed one of them b/c I mis-read the question.

I submitted mine yesterday. I got a 94. On 2 that I missed, semantics tripped me up. On the third one, I read too much into the question. Oh, woe is me. Not!!

Treeguy Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:17am

In Michigan, no testing required, I believe we are one of two states that do not require one.

bainsey Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:40am

Closed book here, 50 rules questions, plus mechanics questions. We get a practice exam that we work on together, before the exam on 11/27. My experience has been that the practice exam is always tougher than the real deal. Makes for good preparation, if you ask me.

Freddy Mon Oct 31, 2011 02:31pm

Slight Correction
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Treeguy (Post 796627)
In Michigan, no testing required, I believe we are one of two states that do not require one.

This is the new protocol here in the land across the lake from Rut:

"Beginning in 2011-12, for an official to be eligible to work a
Quarterfinal, Semifinal or Final contest, that official must take and
pass the 30-question MHSAA Rules Test for those sports in which the
exam is offered with a minimum score of 80 percent."

It just came out today and must be submitted online by December 8.

ontheway Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:57pm

When can you not have successive timeouts?

APG Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheway (Post 796726)
when can you not have successive timeouts?

5-12

DrPete Tue Nov 01, 2011 03:24pm

There is no rule 5-12 anymore. It has been incorporated into rule 5-11-7. Successive time outs are still defined in rule 4-43-2.

Scratch85 Tue Nov 01, 2011 03:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 796877)
There is no rule 5-12 anymore. It has been incorporated into rule 4-11-7. Successive time outs are still defined in rule 4-43-2.

Typo: 5-11-7

DrPete Tue Nov 01, 2011 03:35pm

Good catch, I changed in my original post to read 5-11-7. Thanks

grunewar Fri Nov 04, 2011 05:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 796576)
I submitted mine yesterday. I got a 94. On 2 that I missed, semantics tripped me up. On the third one, I read too much into the question. Oh, woe is me. Not!!

While I seem to get around the same score every year, I don't seem to "read anything into it" anymore. I've gotten better and they have certainly become less frustrating. I seem to either mis-read the question, the question is just poorly written (IMO) or I make a stupid error.

I looked at my exam from last yr - duh! :o

Lcubed48 Sat Nov 05, 2011 01:23am

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 797265)
While I seem to get around the same score every year, I don't seem to "read anything into it" anymore. I've gotten better and they have certainly become less frustrating. I seem to either mis-read the question, the question is just poorly written (IMO) or I make a stupid error.

I looked at my exam from last yr - duh! :o

I'm the same way. I always seem to make that dumb mistake/s that keeps me from perfection. OH well, so be it. :(No matter what I still get to work the night shift.:(


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