Handoff = OOB ?

MelbRef

On the inbound, player A1 hands the ball to teammate A2 instead of throwing the ball.

OOB?

Adam

No, it's a throw-in violation.

BBUMP99

I'd have a violation. The book states that "The ball shall be PASSED by the thrower..." (NFHS 9-2-2).

Definition of pass: "...movement of the ball caused by a player who throws, bats, or rolls the ball to another player."

Since a handoff is not, by rule, a pass, the provisions of a legal throw-in have not been met.

My .02

APG

It's most definitely a throw-in violation.

JRutledge

It is a throw-in violation, but the result is the same. You are going to put the ball where the violation took place.

Peace

JugglingReferee

MelbRef wrote
On the inbound, player A1 hands the ball to teammate A2 instead of throwing the ball.

OOB?

This is a violation if A1 is out of bounds and A2 is in-bounds. If A2 is also out of bounds, this hand-off is legal only after a made or awarded basket.

BillyMac

How about a handoff from inbounder A1, who's hands are on the inbounds side of the boundary line, to defensive player B1, in other words, B1 just grabs the ball out of A1's hands?

billyu2

BillyMac wrote
How about a handoff from inbounder A1, who's hands are on the inbounds side of the boundary line, to defensive player B1, in other words, B1 just grabs the ball out of A1's hands?

That would be legal robbery.

Raymond

BBUMP99 wrote
I'd have a violation. The book states that "The ball shall be PASSED by the thrower..." (NFHS 9-2-2).

Definition of pass: "...movement of the ball caused by a player who throws, bats, or rolls the ball to another player."

Since a handoff is not, by rule, a pass the provisions of a legal throw-in have not been met.

My .02

What if A1 just drops the ball inbounds on the court? 😀

BBUMP99

BadNewsRef wrote
What if A1 just drops the ball inbounds on the court? 😃

That would be 100% legal, provided that the floor becomes designated as "another player." If such designation does not take place, I'd have a violation.

😃:rolleyes:

bainsey

BillyMac wrote
How about a handoff from inbounder A1, who's hands are on the inbounds side of the boundary line, to defensive player B1, in other words, B1 just grabs the ball out of A1's hands?

Inbounds side: Legal
OOB side: Technical foul against defender.
Starts inbounds and continues OOB, two sets of hands on ball: Held ball. (Bonus point, does the arrow switch if it's an APTI)?

Adam

BBUMP99 wrote
That would be 100% legal, provided that the floor becomes designated as "another player." If such designation does not take place, I'd have a violation.

😃:rolleyes:

For what? Consider the "drop" to be a pass.

APG

Snaqwells wrote
For what? Consider the "drop" to be a pass.

I took his post to be sarcastic...

Adam

AllPurposeGamer wrote
I took his post to be sarcastic...

Perhaps I wasn't as charitable as usual. Channeling again.

chseagle

BadNewsRef wrote
What if A1 just drops the ball inbounds on the court? 😃

Does the inbounding player touch the ball first after it touches the court inbounds?

Raymond

chseagle wrote
Does the inbounding player touch the ball first after it touches the court inbounds?

nope

APG

chseagle wrote
Does the inbounding player touch the ball first after it touches the court inbounds?

I do believe BNR wasn't being serious with his question and was asking in jest.

Camron Rust

BadNewsRef wrote
What if A1 just drops the ball inbounds on the court? 😃

BBUMP99 wrote
That would be 100% legal, provided that the floor becomes designated as "another player." If such designation does not take place, I'd have a violation.

😃:rolleyes:

No need for the floor to become a "player". It is just a bonce pass that is not yet complete....it becomes so once another player touches the ball. Until that occurs (or some other infraction occurs), the throwin is still in progress.