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Hoosier Daddy Fri Mar 28, 2003 01:45am

Maybe this has been covered in a previous post, but oh well. What's up with the new noose lanyards? Why the decision to change from the regular smitty? For anyone that has worn one, aren't they uncomfortable?

[Edited by Hoosier Daddy on Mar 28th, 2003 at 10:11 PM]

JRutledge Fri Mar 28, 2003 02:02am

Love the noose.
 
These things are great. They do not move around or out of place. And they do not tuck on your shirt. You do not have to worry about them not fitting on those little loops or having the loop break. I haven't used anything else in two years.

But that is just me. :D

Peace

wizard Fri Mar 28, 2003 08:16am

Quote:

Originally posted by Hoosier Daddy
Maybe this has been covered in a previous post, but oh well. What's up with the new loose lanyards? Why the decision to change from the regular smitty? For anyone that has worn one, aren't they uncomfortable?
WHO went from the smitty to the lanyard?

RecRef Fri Mar 28, 2003 09:20am

Quote:

Originally posted by Hoosier Daddy
What's up with the new loose lanyards? Why the decision to change from the regular smitty? For anyone that has worn one, aren't they uncomfortable?
We have the choice of either in Nothern VA. FWIW, I lake the old style best of all as they are heavy and do not break.

mick Fri Mar 28, 2003 09:24am

Quote:

Originally posted by Hoosier Daddy
Maybe this has been covered in a previous post, but oh well. What's up with the new loose lanyards? Why the decision to change from the regular smitty? For anyone that has worn one, aren't they uncomfortable?
Are you sure the lanyards are not the antennae for the power packs?

johnSandlin Fri Mar 28, 2003 09:41am

In Michigan at the college level, some of the assignors have made it a requirement for the officials to wear the neck lanyards. I personally like them over the smitty style lanyards. I think they look a bit more professional. Also, the neck lanyards are required for the useage of the new timing systems that most colleges, and the NBA are using.

bob jenkins Fri Mar 28, 2003 11:19am

Quote:

Originally posted by Hoosier Daddy
Maybe this has been covered in a previous post, but oh well. What's up with the new loose lanyards? Why the decision to change from the regular smitty? For anyone that has worn one, aren't they uncomfortable?
The heading says "Noose lanyards", your comment says "Loose lanyards".

1) Which is it?

2) Noose lanyards aren't new.

3) WHat's a loose lanyard?

Dan_ref Fri Mar 28, 2003 11:35am

Maybe he meant Loose Nanyards?

Mark Padgett Fri Mar 28, 2003 11:55am

Maybe he meant moose nards.

fletch_irwin_m Fri Mar 28, 2003 12:00pm

Ok So I am an Idiot
 
Just ask anyone who sits in the stands at one of my games.
Can anyone give me a description of the two type of lanyards that are being discussed? I use the ones that are a "necklace" type with a "thingy" that tightens around my neck. I loop them through the shirt loop, over the neck and then tighten. The other I have seen clips on to the shirt loop. I don't like this one because I have a long neck and the whistle comes up to about my chin, very difficult to blow the whistle at that point!

ChuckElias Fri Mar 28, 2003 12:04pm

Re: Ok So I am an Idiot
 
Quote:

Originally posted by fletch_irwin_m
a "necklace" type with a "thingy" that tightens around my neck.
Noose.

Quote:

The other I have seen clips on to the shirt loop.
Smitty.

dblref Fri Mar 28, 2003 12:21pm

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Originally posted by RecRef
Quote:

Originally posted by Hoosier Daddy
What's up with the new loose lanyards? Why the decision to change from the regular smitty? For anyone that has worn one, aren't they uncomfortable?
We have the choice of either in Nothern VA. FWIW, I lake the old style best of all as they are heavy and do not break.

You old guys are afraid of change, aren't you? :D

bob jenkins Fri Mar 28, 2003 12:32pm

Re: Ok So I am an Idiot
 
Quote:

Originally posted by fletch_irwin_m
Just ask anyone who sits in the stands at one of my games.
Can anyone give me a description of the two type of lanyards that are being discussed? I use the ones that are a "necklace" type with a "thingy" that tightens around my neck. I loop them through the shirt loop, over the neck and then tighten.

You put it through the loop, then over your neck? Isn't that kind of like wearing a belt and suspenders?



Quote:

I have seen clips on to the shirt loop. I don't like this one because I have a long neck and the whistle comes up to about my chin, very difficult to blow the whistle at that point!
The smitty comes in different lengths.

Old joke:

Q) Why is a giraffe's neck so long?

A1) Have you ever smelled a giraffe's feet?

A2) Because its head is so far from its body.

oatmealqueen Fri Mar 28, 2003 12:58pm

I have broken the loops on my shirt too many times to use the "smitty". I cut those suckers off now and wear the long lanyards.
BTW, have you ever discussed the word "lanyard" with a non-officiating person? They do not have a clue what that word means (most of them).

mick Fri Mar 28, 2003 01:25pm

Quote:

Originally posted by oatmealqueen

BTW, have you ever discussed the word "lanyard" with a non-officiating person? They do not have a clue what that word means (most of them).

Oh, yes. We get a group of people together about once a month to discuss that. :rolleyes:

rockyroad Fri Mar 28, 2003 01:36pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Maybe he meant moose nards.
Having grown up in Alaska in an avid hunting family, I must admit that I have seen moose nards up close, and I can tell you right now I would NEVER wear them around my neck!! Whether they would fit through the little loop on the jersey is irrelevant!!


My God, these posts are getting bizarre!

Mark Padgett Fri Mar 28, 2003 05:57pm

Quote:

Originally posted by rockyroad
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Maybe he meant moose nards.
Having grown up in Alaska in an avid hunting family, I must admit that I have seen moose nards up close, and I can tell you right now I would NEVER wear them around my neck!! Whether they would fit through the little loop on the jersey is irrelevant!!


My God, these posts are getting bizarre!

You ain't seen nothing yet. Try this:

You say you've seen moose nards up close. Which ones blow better, the ones with or without pea?

bob jenkins Fri Mar 28, 2003 06:23pm

Quote:

Originally posted by oatmealqueen
I have broken the loops on my shirt too many times to use the "smitty". I cut those suckers off now and wear the long lanyards.
BTW, have you ever discussed the word "lanyard" with a non-officiating person? They do not have a clue what that word means (most of them).

I hear people say that. I've never broken one.


rainmaker Fri Mar 28, 2003 06:28pm

Quote:

Originally posted by oatmealqueen
I have broken the loops on my shirt too many times to use the "smitty". I cut those suckers off now and wear the long lanyards.
BTW, have you ever discussed the word "lanyard" with a non-officiating person? They do not have a clue what that word means (most of them).

Before I started reffing, I assumed it was anything made out of "gimp", made at camp,for clippinnng things onto.

oatmealqueen Fri Mar 28, 2003 09:00pm

Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by oatmealqueen

BTW, have you ever discussed the word "lanyard" with a non-officiating person? They do not have a clue what that word means (most of them).

Oh, yes. We get a group of people together about once a month to discuss that. :rolleyes:

Smart butt!! :p

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Mar 28, 2003 10:52pm

To my knowledge there are three types of lanyard one can wear.

1) The old time loose neck lanyard that all of us old geezers use to wear before the invention of the Smitty.

2) The Smitty.

3) The non-loose neck (the type we see in the NBA/WNBA) or noose neck type lanyard.

Personally, I prefer the Smitty. But I have all three types of lanyard in my bag. During "real" games I wear either the Smitty or the noose neck lanyard. But when I wear the old shirts with collars (for summer and recreational league games), I sometimes wear the loose neck lanyard.

In the final analysis, who cares what type of laynard one wears. All three look fine to me. It is an official's personal preference as to the type of lanyard he/she prefers to wear. When I evaluate an official the only thing I want to see is that he is wearing a lanyard (I do not care wether it is Type 1, 2, or 3) and that it is black. What really steams my tuchus is an official who does not use a laynard.

Mark Padgett Fri Mar 28, 2003 11:08pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
What really steams my tuchus is an official who does not use a laynard.
Is a laynard like a moose nard? :p

rockyroad Sat Mar 29, 2003 12:44am

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
What really steams my tuchus is an official who does not use a laynard.
Is a laynard like a moose nard? :p

No...but the tuchus is awful close to the nards on a moose.

ChuckElias Sat Mar 29, 2003 10:13am

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
What really steams my tuchus is an official who does not use a laynard.
Just out of curiosity, why? The only purpose of the lanyard is to make things easier on the official. If he can officiate a good game and hold onto his whistle, what's the problem?

Chuck

Mark Dexter Sat Mar 29, 2003 11:11am

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Originally posted by johnSandlin
Also, the neck lanyards are required for the useage of the new timing systems that most colleges, and the NBA are using.

No, they're not. "They" make Smittys and noose lanyards with the microphone clips for Precision Timing.


Also, mick, the antennae for PT are in the belt packs.

mick Sat Mar 29, 2003 11:14am

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:

Originally posted by johnSandlin
Also, the neck lanyards are required for the useage of the new timing systems that most colleges, and the NBA are using.

No, they're not. "They" make Smittys and noose lanyards with the microphone clips for Precision Timing.


Also, mick, the antennae for PT are in the belt packs.

Thanks, Mark, I thought the maybe the Moose Smit was part of the package.
I don't git out much.
mick

manhong Sat Mar 29, 2003 11:52am

I have used both the smitty and noose style lanyards. I personally like the smitty because of the fact that it does not wrap tightly around my neck. In additon, the smitty lanyard does not absorb the sweat from my neck. As with all equipment, it comes down to personal preference. Some officials like the smitty while others like the noose style.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Mar 29, 2003 03:59pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
What really steams my tuchus is an official who does not use a laynard.
Just out of curiosity, why? The only purpose of the lanyard is to make things easier on the official. If he can officiate a good game and hold onto his whistle, what's the problem?

Chuck


I know that there are still some old geezers (and I am a bald old geezer myself) in the NBA that do not use a lanyard. When an official does not use a laynard his hand mechanics once he sounds his whistle just do not look clean and crisp. His first move is to always catch his whistle rather that make the required arm and hand motions that are required of him when he sounds his whistle. I am sorry, but a lanyardless official just does not look that good. I have a very good friend who is a very good official including the jr. coll., NAIA, and NCAA Div. III level, who does not use a lanyard, and I always offer him a lanyard whenever we officiate. He never accepts my offer and we have a good laugh over it because like me he is one of the old bald geezers still officiating out there.

AK ref SE Mon Mar 31, 2003 07:05pm

Rockyroad-
I am from Alaska, and the make moose nard ear rings, swizzle sticks, and necklaces......I sure hope that was a whistle.....not a moose nard I used for my last game!!!!

AK ref SE

Matt S. Tue Apr 01, 2003 04:33am

never tried the noose
 
but I don't like having anything around my neck during a game. If someone happens to tug on my smitty, it's just gonna rip off (never happened yet). I don't feel like getting strangled by wearing a noose.

DrakeM Tue Apr 01, 2003 06:01am

Try the lanyard with the quick release on the back.
I didn't think they were practical until I was working a
football game and a defender ran by me and got his finger caught in the lanyard. It worked! Released and I didn't get de-capitated!:D:D

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Tue Apr 01, 2003 07:02pm

Quote:

Originally posted by DrakeM
Try the lanyard with the quick release on the back.
I didn't think they were practical until I was working a
football game and a defender ran by me and got his finger caught in the lanyard. It worked! Released and I didn't get de-capitated!:D:D


Who sells this type of lanyard? I would be interested in trying one, even if it is just a couple in my bag to go with the rest of my collection of lanyards.

mick Tue Apr 01, 2003 07:13pm

I tried and tried to see the "style" of the Big Boys.
I am always looking to upgrade my uniforms.
I like stylin'.
And now, I am even strongly considering some pleated sans, but ....

...Okay. I'm gonna say it.

The noose lanyard on a V-neck shirt gives the same effect as a tie with a T-shirt.



dblref Tue Apr 01, 2003 09:41pm

Quote:

Originally posted by mick
I tried and tried to see the "style" of the Big Boys.
I am always looking to upgrade my uniforms.
I like stylin'.
And now, I am even strongly considering some pleated sans, but ....

...Okay. I'm gonna say it.

The noose lanyard on a V-neck shirt gives the same effect as a tie with a T-shirt.



As long as it is a white T-shirt, I have no problem with this. :D

mick Tue Apr 01, 2003 09:47pm

The Emperor has no clothes ! :)


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