I've heard that the NFHS has sent out proposed rule changes for 03-04 season for comment. Anyone heard these?
- Give neutral zone on FT's to opponent of shooter
- Limit number of lane spaces to be occupied during FT
- Adding Team Control Foul
- Mercy Rule (let clock run when down by xx points)

I can't remember the other 3. Anyone else heard these?

Mregor

I don't know what the proposed changes are, but I'm in favor of all the ones you've listed.

Give neutral zone on FT's to opponent of shooter

What's this mean?

Thanks, I was too embarrased to ask.

Some of us are simply beyond embarrasment :)

(Beat ya again, JR!)

I believe it means let the defender closest to the basket put his foot on the block

Thanks, I thought it had something to do with the Romulans.

Other than the Mercy Rule, it sounds like they are pretty much following recent NCAA changes...

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Chuck

I know! I've seen you at your part time job!

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Shows what you know Mr Smarty Pants, I don't have nearly that much hair!

Sound like good changes to me.

Here in Florida we worked this high school season with an experimental rule on number of players occupying lane spaces on free throws. Roughly it was the women's college rule. I liked it -- don't know what the coaches thought about it. From my perspective there seemed to be a lot more offensive rebounds from missed free throws than I've noticed in the past.

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As any Michigan official who had the mercy rule taken away this season will tell you, PLEASE, PLEASE bring it back!!!

Any rule which brings the game closer to the women's collegiate rules will improve the game. I have called at all levels on both genders, and find the rules and mechanics that the women use to be the best ones. I know that there will be great wailing and crying about this statement, but until you have tried them, you won't know for sure.

The reality is for NF to adopt any major changes is that the NCAA men will do it first.

Just an opinion.
 

I sure hope they do not adopt the no-5-second count during a dribble rule. I know some really ballers that would just hold the ball and dribble all over the court if that was adopted.

I can think of a couple other Women's rules that would be inappropriate for the NF level. But that is just my take.

Peace

I was thinking they meant not occupying the spot closest to the shooter. Guess that is why they make chocolate and vanilla ice cream. :D

After watching some HS games from Maine over the last while. I thought the only major problem with the rules was no shot clock. One score was 6-4 after the first quarter. It was not for lack of shooting skills, but both teams were taking 60 to 90 seconds to shoot. And what about that 7-4 game that was mentionned in another thread?

The neutral zone is the lower block. The opponent of the thrower would be allowed to step on the lower block. 2 more proposed changes are:

- Adding an approved signal for a kicked ball
- Approving a 10 panel ball for use

Still can't remember what the last one was (I believe there was 7)

Mregor

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2 more proposed changes are: - Approving a 10 panel ball for use Mregor

Any one else here ever use that 10 panel ball? We used it in a couple of practices this year and my kids really liked it. I thought that our shooting was a little better those days also. Don't know if that was a result of the ball or just those days.

Oooh oooh, my turn for a silly question! Don't we already have a signal for kicking the ball?

No, we don't. There is no official signal for a kicked ball.

And I can't imagine what they might use? :p

Just remembered the final proposed rule:

- Add a warning horn at 20 secs for replacing a disqualified player.

Mregor

Yes, but it's not an "approved" signal. :)

I haven't heard that, but I wish that NFHS & NCAA come up with the same standard.

Has there been any discussion about adding a shot clock into Fed rules?

My turn to step to the plate to take a swing at sounding stupid.... I thought the rules were previously revised to disallow the 30 seconds to replace a dq'd player - now they need to be replaced immediately. Is that just an Illinois thing, or am I losing my mind completely? (Not that those options are mutually exclusive, I suppose.)

I hope not. I hope never, but it seems like we'll wind up with that eventually.

Yup, just an Illinois thing. Although when Illinois first put it in last season, I liked the idea so much that I actually enforced it in a pre-season game here in Mass!! Oops.

Chuck

My own opinion is that the shot clock is actually ok as long as it's not ridiculously short (24 seconds) and you have people who know how to operate it.

If you have HS kids who are just filling in at the JV game after school, then it's a nightmare. But when it's run correctly, I think it helps the game. If nothing else, it eliminates the 2-minute "hold for the last shot". Blech.

Twenty-four seconds is fine for the pros, but the NCAA's 35 seconds is better for college. We use 30 seconds for HS here in MA, but I'd be more than willing to go to 35 seconds.

Chuck

Is there a list of Illinois' or other states' exceptions to rules available online? I check the IHSA web site, but I can't find any.

Not that I know of. Jeff?? Bob?? A little help?

Chuck

http://www.ighsau.org/hoops/rulesadaption.html

That's the rules adaptations for the Iowa Girls High School Athletic Union. Iowa girls and boys operate under different ruling bodies, and I couldn't find a similar list under the boys at http://www.iahsaa.org .

Adam

I hope they don't add a shot clock. Unlike college or the Pro's, high schools have to play with the hand that is dealt to them. If that means they need to slow the ball down in order to win, they should. It's called coaching. The rules in high school should not be there to determine the style of the game. High school rules are not, nor should they be, implemented for the fans. The NBA and to a certain extent the NCAA is there for the pleasure of the fans. But when we get into saying that one team is better because they play more up tempo I think we hurt the overall integrity of the game.

I hope they don't add a shot clock. Unlike college or the Pro's, high schools have to play with the hand that is dealt to them. If that means they need to slow the ball down in order to win, they should. It's called coaching. The rules in high school should not be there to determine the style of the game. High school rules are not, nor should they be, implemented for the fans. The NBA and to a certain extent the NCAA is there for the pleasure of the fans. But when we get into saying that one team is better because they play more up tempo I think we hurt the overall integrity of the game.

I hope they adopt a team control foul. I've never understood why the rules make a distinction between a foul committed by an offensive player with the ball and a foul committed by an offensive player without the ball.

Stan,

I could not agree with you more. I am from Michigan as well, and the mercy rule needs to be brought back ASAP.

I've never understood why the rules make a distinction between a foul committed by an offensive player with the ball and a defensive player without the ball.

BTW - with school funding the way it is, you won't see a shot clock mandated by NF. Even if it is, many states will have an exception.

You are not going to find it there.
 

It is not an exception, it is a NF Experimental Rule. You might find it on the NF site. Illiniois has been used a few times with experimental rules or mechanics and then put into law if you will. For example the "60 Second Timout Signal." We used that for a year than it was changed. I believe the "Start the Clock" signal was used here too, but I cannot remember for sure.

Peace

Re: You are not going to find it there.
 

Thanks!!! Are you working any of the IL HS boys' playoff games this week?