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Mark Padgett Fri Jul 29, 2011 04:00pm

OK newbies - try this one
 
Fed rules. A1 jumps forward to take a shot. While still in the air, the shot goes in. Prior to touching the court, A1 comes down on B1 who had legal guarding position before A1 left the floor. The official calls a foul on A1.

1) does the shot count?
2) is the foul on A1 a player control foul?
3) if team B is in the bonus, will B1 shoot free throws?

ontheway Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:41pm

1. waive off the Shot.
2. yes were punching out with Player control
3. No Free throws on Player control

If I'm Wrong which i could be, please explain

Mark Padgett Mon Aug 01, 2011 03:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheway (Post 776289)
1. waive off the Shot.
2. yes were punching out with Player control
3. No Free throws on Player control

If I'm Wrong which i could be, please explain

Guys - how did he do?

tref Mon Aug 01, 2011 03:59pm

I thought he did great, considering the basic 101 play you posed.

APG Mon Aug 01, 2011 04:03pm

The only thing someone will get on him for is for punching this since if one wants to be harsh, there's no team control (regardless, I punch all "offensive" fouls...that player control signal is one of the weakest signals).

ontheway Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:23am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 777068)
The only thing someone will get on him for is for punching this since if one wants to be harsh, there's no team control (regardless, I punch all "offensive" fouls...that player control signal is one of the weakest signals).

In 5 years of playing and 2 of having a whistle; I've never seen a "No Punch" player control.

Adam Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:31am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheway (Post 777155)
In 5 years of playing and 2 of having a whistle; I've never seen a "No Punch" player control.

The PC mechanic does not involve a punch in NFHS mechanics. Not that some areas don't use it, but the punch is a TC foul signal.

Raymond Tue Aug 02, 2011 07:14am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheway (Post 777155)
In 5 years of playing and 2 of having a whistle; I've never seen a "No Punch" player control.

You've never seen me officiate. ;)

tref Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:46am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 777217)
You've never seen me officiate. ;)

What do you do at the scene of the crime BNR, punch "offense?"
And at the table, hand behind the head, pointing the other way "player control?"

Raymond Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tref (Post 777262)
What do you do at the scene of the crime BNR, punch "offense?"
And at the table, hand behind the head, pointing the other way "player control?"

I point the other direction at the spot. If it's just a TC foul I've been working on punching at the table this summer.

tref Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:57pm

Got it, thx!

Mark Padgett Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tref (Post 777067)
I thought he did great, considering the basic 101 play you posed.

What I was getting at was seeing if they thought there was a difference in the call if the contact happened after the ball went through the hoop.

kyref10 Wed Aug 10, 2011 09:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 777291)
What I was getting at was seeing if they thought there was a difference in the call if the contact happened after the ball went through the hoop.

Would be if shooter had returned to floor.


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