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bludevil1221 Sat Feb 22, 2003 01:01pm

What is the most important thing you feel you say to captains during the pre-game??

Mark Padgett Sat Feb 22, 2003 01:33pm

"Make sure all your players have removed their nipple rings, because I'm gonna check."

bludevil1221 Sat Feb 22, 2003 01:44pm

Oh yeah, I do see the relevance...=)

Ref Daddy Sat Feb 22, 2003 02:43pm


I always point out that by rule (NAIA 3.1.2 ) the captains (only) are the players that can inquire and communicate with the ref's on the floor.


zebraman Sat Feb 22, 2003 02:46pm

"Get the ball if it rolls into a corner because we'll be checking out the cute moms."

"Play the whistle not the horn because the clock operator is a known drug addict."

Z

bludevil1221 Sat Feb 22, 2003 02:57pm

I like that one. I also like to remind the captain that our state fines each school that has an ejected coach.

bludevil1221 Sat Feb 22, 2003 03:01pm

Hey everyone, I'm doing a three man crew on a JV Championship game tonight before the district playoff championship, and I'm the R, first time ever.
Someone give em some advice on my pregame. I know the essentials but they've heard the same thing all year, I want to spice it up. Any advice.
Good sportsmanship, blahblah...
Uniforms tucked in, blahblah...


rainmaker Sat Feb 22, 2003 06:51pm

Quote:

Originally posted by bludevil1221
Hey everyone, I'm doing a three man crew on a JV Championship game tonight before the district playoff championship, and I'm the R, first time ever.
Someone give em some advice on my pregame. I know the essentials but they've heard the same thing all year, I want to spice it up. Any advice.
Good sportsmanship, blahblah...
Uniforms tucked in, blahblah...

Ask THEM to give the pre-game talk -- at least you'll know which ones have been listening!

Back In The Saddle Sat Feb 22, 2003 07:18pm

What is a captain for?
 
Perhaps this is a silly question, but what exactly is a captain for? I know that supposedly only the captain can approach the officials, and he can designate free throw shooters at certain times. But, in reality, is the captain ever actually useful for anything?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Feb 22, 2003 08:10pm

I always make sure that the head coaches are with the captains meeting because I love the look on the coaches faces when I remind them that they are in charge of their teams including everybody on the bench from the head coach down to the last player, manager, etc.

Ref Daddy Sat Feb 22, 2003 08:52pm


ART. 2 . . . The captain is the representative of his/her team and may address an official on matters of interpretation or to obtain essential information, if it is done in a courteous manner. Any player may address an official to request a time-out or permission to leave the court.

What do they do? Fulfill a rule in the book!

williebfree Sat Feb 22, 2003 11:00pm

Captian, schmaptian...
 
One phrase that I stress during the captians mtg:
"As captians, you have been selected as positive leaders for your team. We officials will expect that from you on the court."

Then reality sets in:

How many times have you had the captians' meeting and found out the coach has given you the player (among the starting five) that is the LEAST appropriate choice.

I have been forced to "T" several "captians" this year for very unsportmanship-like actions.

ChuckElias Sun Feb 23, 2003 11:58am

I've said this before, although not everyone agrees with me, but the captains aren't listening to you; so nothing you say is important. Introduce yourselves, shake hands, have fun. Bye!

Chuck

tw1ns Sun Feb 23, 2003 12:44pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
I've said this before, although not everyone agrees with me, but the captains aren't listening to you; so nothing you say is important. Introduce yourselves, shake hands, have fun. Bye!

Chuck

They may not listen, but my partner and I always emphasize that as captains they should take care of sportsmanship on the floor before we have to go to the coaches with it. Had an instance Friday night when a kid got his 4th foul and wasn't happy about it. As I was standing next to the captain while the free throws were shot I mentioned to him that he might want to settle the kid down. He took care of it and we did not have a problem with him the rest of the game.

Question for Chuck - when you introduce yourself are you
Mr. Elias or are you Chuck Elias?

ChuckElias Sun Feb 23, 2003 01:59pm

I always introduce myself and my partners as "Mr.", although many officials in my area introduce themselves by first name. Maybe it's just how I was raised. I was never allowed to call adults by their first names.

Chuck

JRutledge Sun Feb 23, 2003 02:36pm

Same value.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
I always introduce myself and my partners as "Mr.", although many officials in my area introduce themselves by first name. Maybe it's just how I was raised. I was never allowed to call adults by their first names.

Chuck

That was the same way I was brought up. I was also not allowed to call "adults" by their first name when I was a kid, and I still call "adults" that were "adults" when I was young by their last name only. Only adults should call me by my first name.

Peace

Larks Sun Feb 23, 2003 04:29pm

Hello, I am Larks and the stubby short bald guy with glasses is JR. Captains introduce yourselves....

Words words words...you are not even listening to me....words words...I could call you all howler monkey wannabes and you would not even notice.....words words words....have a good game.

Jurassic Referee Sun Feb 23, 2003 04:34pm

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Originally posted by Larks
Hello, I am Larks.
http://www.sodamnfunny.com/Picture/People/ballerina.jpg

Larks Sun Feb 23, 2003 06:26pm

WOW....thats untoppable.

Too funny JR.....I owe you one

rainmaker Mon Feb 24, 2003 01:27am

Quote:

Originally posted by tw1ns
... when you introduce yourself are you Mr. Elias or are you Chuck Elias?
I always say, "I'm Juulie and this is Debbie, but you can call us Ref if you do it politely."

My question about captains is, how do you remember which one it is, to talk to them later if necessary?

Mregor Mon Feb 24, 2003 08:26am

I worked with a new partner last friday and he was the R. During the captains meeting he told the V team captain to make sure they didn't have any wife beater shirts on underneath. Kind of caught me off guard. I on the other hand just do introductions, good sportsmanship, designate speaking captain when more than one attend, have a good game. About 30 seconds or so.

Mregor

Rich Mon Feb 24, 2003 08:33am

Is this a local rule? Our state office has clarified that these shirts are legal as long as they are the same color as the jerseys.

And yes, the state has used the phrase you used to describe them. Makes me cringe.

Rich

ChuckElias Mon Feb 24, 2003 08:42am

Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
My question about captains is, how do you remember which one it is, to talk to them later if necessary?
"34 red, 22 white, 34 red, 22 white, 34 red, 22 white, 34 red, 22 white. . . " Sometimes it's easy, like they're both 13. Or in my game on Saturday, the captains were 23 and 4. That's easy, b/c it's 2-3-4.

Quote:

Originally posted by Roger
he told the V team captain to make sure they didn't have any wife beater shirts on underneath

Ok, you got me. What does this mean?!?! And why would anybody give it that name??

Chuck

theboys Mon Feb 24, 2003 08:55am

This is a bit off-topic, like most of my posts, but I had to relay it. I was in Clinton, TN for a volleyball tournament this weekend. Between matches I read one of the local rags. The Sports section contained an article about a kid (senior) who quit his high school basketball team just before the start of the playoffs to protest his coach's policies. Kid was leading scorer, etc, etc. The kid's dad was quoted as having two complaints with the coach: 1) the coach didn't make his kid captain at the beginning of the season, and 2) the coach didn't send game tapes of his kid to any colleges.

Hmmmmm.

Mregor Mon Feb 24, 2003 09:03am

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser
Is this a local rule? Our state office has clarified that these shirts are legal as long as they are the same color as the jerseys.

And yes, the state has used the phrase you used to describe them. Makes me cringe.

Rich

What I left out was the important adjective, white. That's why it was addressed to the V team only.

Chuck,

What he was referring to was the white sleeveless t-shirts.

Mregor

ChuckElias Mon Feb 24, 2003 09:27am

Quote:

Originally posted by Mregor
Chuck,

What he was referring to was the white sleeveless t-shirts.

I still don't understand, I guess. The original quote was a "wife beater shirt". Are you saying that it was actually "white beater shirt"? Or are you saying that it's easier to beat your wife if your t-shirt is sleeveless?

I can't imagine using this phrase.

Chuck

Dan_ref Mon Feb 24, 2003 10:28am

Quote:

Originally posted by bludevil1221
What is the most important thing you feel you say to captains during the pre-game??
Have fun.

RecRef Mon Feb 24, 2003 10:30am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Mregor
Chuck,

What he was referring to was the white sleeveless t-shirts.

I still don't understand, I guess. The original quote was a "wife beater shirt". --- Or are you saying that it's easier to beat your wife if your t-shirt is sleeveless?

I can't imagine using this phrase.

Chuck

Rent a DVD or tape of Tennessee William's “Streetcar Named Desire” and you will understand everything.

Mregor Mon Feb 24, 2003 10:51am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Mregor
Chuck,

What he was referring to was the white sleeveless t-shirts.

I still don't understand, I guess. The original quote was a "wife beater shirt". Are you saying that it was actually "white beater shirt"? Or are you saying that it's easier to beat your wife if your t-shirt is sleeveless?

I can't imagine using this phrase.

Chuck

I am saying, without taking a stance by the way, is that they call the white sleeveless t-shirts, wife beater shirts based on the stereotype that men who wear those as outergarments are more likely to beat their wives. Watch an episode of COPS and you'll see where the stereotype comes from.

Mregor

ChuckElias Mon Feb 24, 2003 10:53am

Ok, I guess I understand now. Now I'm just shocked that anybody would use it in a normal conversation. That's horrible.

Chuck

Mregor Mon Feb 24, 2003 10:59am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Ok, I guess I understand now. Now I'm just shocked that anybody would use it in a normal conversation. That's horrible.

Chuck

Imagine the look on my face when the Ref said it!:eek: Rich also said that his state asociation has used that term in their interpretation.

Mregor


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