The Official Forum

The Official Forum (https://forum.officiating.com/)
-   Basketball (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/)
-   -   Clock Issues (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/7345-clock-issues.html)

Hawks Coach Wed Feb 05, 2003 05:26pm

Another one for the new members to chew on - you senor members will cut to the chase too quickly for my purposes, so please hold your comments until some more recent members have the chance to respond. and if you do respond, take a chance without reading anybody else's answers first!

1. Ball is dead and you note that the clock is running. What do you do?

2. Ball is live and bouncing across the court toward A1, with A1 the only player likely to obtain control of ball and clock is stopped{my edit added here upon review of comments!). What do you do?


[Edited by Hawks Coach on Feb 5th, 2003 at 05:16 PM]

Mregor Wed Feb 05, 2003 06:10pm

1. Stop the clock
2. Get out of the way of the ball.

tw1ns Wed Feb 05, 2003 06:11pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawks Coach

1. Ball is dead and you note that the clock is running. What do you do?

2. Ball is live and bouncing across the court toward A1, with A1 the only player likely to obtain control of ball. What do you do?
[/B]
1. What level of ball? 7-8th grade GREAT let it run!! Just kidding. Anyway, I blow the whistle, tell'em to stop the clock. Meet with partner, go to the bench, ask the clock op, agree on a time to be put back on, meet with both coaches, hope they agree and go back at it.

2. Don't understand, is there a problem here?

Are these trick questions for us newbs to this forum?

Hawks Coach Wed Feb 05, 2003 06:15pm

Sorry - I really screwed that one up!! Update 2. to read:

2. Ball is live and bouncing across the court toward A1, with A1 the only player likely to obtain control of ball, and clock is stopped. What do you do?

tw1ns Wed Feb 05, 2003 06:20pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawks Coach
Sorry - I really screwed that one up!! Update 2. to read:

2. Ball is live and bouncing across the court toward A1, with A1 the only player likely to obtain control of ball, and clock is stopped. What do you do?

Revised #2 - I try to get the clock ops attention and just have'em start the clock. But if it takes too long THEN I blow my whistle and do the same as above (answer 1) If it is in the backcourt I have a good idea how much time SHOULD be off the clock because I have been counting.

I have a feeling this has nothing to do with the clock being stopped. But we will find out, won't we!

SCBroncos Wed Feb 05, 2003 06:22pm

#1 - Since the ball is dead and the clock is running, blow the whistle again and have them stop the clock. If I know what the correct time should be, I would make that correction, otherwise, leave it where it is stopped.

#2 - Wait until A1 controls the ball, then blow the whistle and have them start the clock.

Jurassic Referee Wed Feb 05, 2003 06:32pm

http://www.uselessgraphics.com/school2.gif

Hawks Coach Wed Feb 05, 2003 06:37pm

Not so fast my friend
 
JR
I know, that you know, that I know. . .

But this is just too much fun to stop so soon.

Bart Tyson Wed Feb 05, 2003 06:42pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawks Coach
Sorry - I really screwed that one up!! Update 2. to read:

2. Ball is live and bouncing across the court toward A1, with A1 the only player likely to obtain control of ball, and clock is stopped. What do you do?

You still have not identified the Problem.

Hawks Coach Wed Feb 05, 2003 06:44pm

Easy Bart - your name still says SR member below it. And perhaps identification of the problem is the problem, yes?

BigJoe Wed Feb 05, 2003 06:46pm

Hawks Coach,
With all of this time on your hands, shouldn't you be designing a can't miss inbounds play? Just a thought.

Hawks Coach Wed Feb 05, 2003 06:47pm

No such thing Joe! You ever seen us play? We can miss wide open lay-ups.

Bart Tyson Wed Feb 05, 2003 06:49pm

oops, sorry

canuckrefguy Wed Feb 05, 2003 07:01pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawks Coach

1. Ball is dead and you note that the clock is running. What do you do?

2. Ball is live and bouncing across the court toward A1, with A1 the only player likely to obtain control of ball, and the clock is stopped. What do you do?

I'm gonna take a stab here....but this is how I see it.

1. Do nothing. You've just described the clock status when the ball goes through the hoop (until we get inside 1:00 in the second half by NCAA rules). Ball is live when player gets it out of bounds to throw it back into play.

2. Chop time in when A1 touches it. This sounds like a throw-in situation where Team A wants to wait until last possible moment before starting clock.

If this isn't it, I haven't the foggiest. Can't wait to see the answer, though!

Incidentally, I agree with previous poster. Hawks Coach clearly has too much time on his hands. Should be designing plays (or layup drills, by the sounds of it!)

Hawks Coach Wed Feb 05, 2003 07:12pm

Now I really hope that nobody is peeking - although you are technically wrong on live ball status in 1. By rule, it is live when it is at disposal, which is not necessarily when the ball is OOB in hands of the former defensive team. You are holding it, it is at your disposal. Also, if you stand there staring at it and won't pick it up as a delaying tactic, it is also at your disposal, IMO - but that was another thread in another place and time.

Now you need to post 25 more times so you don't answer my next puzzler.

Jurassic Referee Wed Feb 05, 2003 07:13pm

Re: Not so fast my friend
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hawks Coach
JR
I know, that you know, that I know. . .

But this is just too much fun to stop so soon.

I wasn't gonna jump in,Coach.I just like posting gif's. Wednesday is "don't be serious" day,anyway.

Hawks Coach Wed Feb 05, 2003 07:16pm

What day was . . .
 
serious day? I must have missed your posts that day.

BigJoe Wed Feb 05, 2003 07:29pm

Hawks Coach,
You must have coached one of the two teams that we officiated on Monday night! That was a game that set girls basketball back at least 20 years. In the varsity game we had 5 held balls in one minute! My partner said after the first quarter that if the game continued like this he was going to shoot himself at halftime to put him out of his misery. It is a good thing that Rainmaker didn't have this game as her first varsity game!!!!

canuckrefguy Wed Feb 05, 2003 07:31pm

So....

Don't I win some kind of prize or something?

tw1ns Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:34pm

I gotta see the play rather than READ it. Too hard to visualize, plus too much info left out. Kinda makes you think though.

Dan_ref Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:57pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
http://www.uselessgraphics.com/school2.gif
Yeah. Like you were ever that young.

http://www.travelwiththeleague.com/W...%20LIJIANG.jpg

Jurassic Referee Thu Feb 06, 2003 04:10am

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Yeah. Like you were ever that young.
[/B][/QUOTE]Well,I haven't started forgetting my name,yet. OR when I have a ballgame!!
http://www.uselessgraphics.com/babi26.gif

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Feb 6th, 2003 at 03:15 AM]

Hawks Coach Thu Feb 06, 2003 07:46am

tw1ns
If you see the play, you clearly know what the clock should be doing. This post was more a follow-up on a previous one in which I noted that we had a couple of refs and a timekeeper that did not know the ball becoming live does not always start the clock, and the ball becoming dead does not always stop it.

It was more to play on your assumptions, and then to make that point about live ball and dead ball.

tw1ns Thu Feb 06, 2003 12:33pm

You know what they say, don't assume anything, it makes an
*** out of you and me!!!
T


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:10am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1