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BBFAN Sat Feb 01, 2003 03:41pm

Is there every a time that one team is favored over the other in the way a game is called? Say for instances,one team has a long history of winning and an up and coming program says that Team A is favored over Team B in the way calls go in a game.

zebraman Sat Feb 01, 2003 04:11pm

Please rewrite your post. I cannot understand the question the way you have worded it. It makes no sense.

Z

BigJoe Sat Feb 01, 2003 05:29pm

In all college games and all NBA games there is a favorite. In Vegas, they are the ones you have to lay the points to win your bet!

Mike Burns Sat Feb 01, 2003 05:36pm

I won't comment on the way NBA games are called. The Star System is a topic for another thread.

To quote from a wise, and more experienced gentleman. "I don't care what the score is. I don't care what the score may become." I just call the game.

tw1ns Sat Feb 01, 2003 05:51pm

Of course, we as refs always have a favorite and we make sure we know who should win so we can call the game the right way. Sometimes we even take money to make sure the right teams wins. WHAT KIND OF QUESTION IS THAT?

dhodges007 Sat Feb 01, 2003 09:20pm

Quote:

Originally posted by BBFAN
Is there every a time that one team is favored over the other in the way a game is called? Say for instances,one team has a long history of winning and an up and coming program says that Team A is favored over Team B in the way calls go in a game.
In short, No, we could care less who wins.

williebfree Sat Feb 01, 2003 09:47pm

Using my "seeing it as a fan" decoder....
 
I believe BBFAN is asking if there is an advantage (favoritism) if an officiating crew tends to call a tight game, in regards to physical play as opposed to another crew that is much more lenient on physical play.

We all know that each crew sets thresholds which vary. Even though we try to be as consistent as possible.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Feb 01, 2003 10:40pm

I have an intense dislike of blarge call, either the defender has obtained(NFHS)/established(NCAA) a legal guarding position or the defender has NOT obtained/established a legal guarding position. To increase the probability of NOT having blarge, a good pregame helps in determining who takes the call in a double whistle situation.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Feb 01, 2003 10:43pm

I know, LOL. Dang I am getting senile.

williebfree Sat Feb 01, 2003 10:50pm

MTD, Sr.
 
What are you talking about? :D And responding to yourself...

Have you sought professional help? ;)

Jurassic Referee Sat Feb 01, 2003 10:50pm

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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
I know, LOL. Dang I am getting senile.
Agree!

BktBallRef Sat Feb 01, 2003 10:52pm

Quote:

Originally posted by BBFAN
Is there every a time that one team is favored over the other in the way a game is called? Say for instances,one team has a long history of winning and an up and coming program says that Team A is favored over Team B in the way calls go in a game.
There's a secret national meet.....ah! Nevermind! :)

No one here can comment on every game ever played. We can only comment on what we have knowledge of. And the answer is no. Haven't you ever watched a game and really not cared at all who won? Well, that's the way we feel when we take the court.

I don't understand why fans can possibly fathom that.

ChuckElias Sun Feb 02, 2003 12:40pm

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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
I know, LOL. Dang I am getting senile.
Mark, just use the "edit/delete" option. That way nobody else will know that you're getting old and senile. :)

JRutledge Sun Feb 02, 2003 03:13pm

Can fans look in the mirror?
 
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Originally posted by BBFAN
Is there every a time that one team is favored over the other in the way a game is called? Say for instances,one team has a long history of winning and an up and coming program says that Team A is favored over Team B in the way calls go in a game.
I thought everyone like the underdog?

I will never say never, but it is very unlikely. I for one officiate many different teams at the HS level. Most I have only read about or heard about through other individuals or the media. Most of the time I do not know any of the participants personally or care about them in a way I would do such a thing. I even did a game at my old HS when they had around a 32 game winning streak at home. Well, they lost to a middle of the road basketball team and I attended the home team. I knew many of the people in the stands and played in that gym in HS. Knew the fight song and identified with the colors of the home team. But they still lost with almost no calls from me and none that affected the game one way or another.

I think fans like to make this up, instead of taking responsiblity for not performing on the court by their team. We are an easy target. No different than the fans of Lebron James blaming the Ohio High School Athletic Association for his problems and suspension, instead of them looking in the mirror at Lebron for his behavior. Everything is always someone else's fault.

Peace

rainmaker Sun Feb 02, 2003 04:47pm

Re: Can fans look in the mirror?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by JRutledge
I thought everyone like the underdog?...

I think fans like to make this up, instead of taking responsiblity for not performing on the court by their team. We are an easy target. No different than the fans of Lebron James blaming the Ohio High School Athletic Association for his problems and suspension, instead of them looking in the mirror at Lebron for his behavior. Everything is always someone else's fault.

I'm with Jeff on this one. I try very hard not to favor one team, but if I catch myself, it's the underdog that's getting my leniency, not the stars. In fact, I'm working hard not to be too tough on the stars. But as to choosing a team ahead of time and making sure they come out on top...

Anyone accuses me of that and they are out of the gym. Period.


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