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Camron Rust Fri Jan 24, 2003 05:23pm

I had an odd situation Tuesday night that I thought I would share.

I'm lead in a 2-man game. Ball out top, I'm focusing on the post action. Ball is shot by A1. In the paint, A2, in trying to get position for a rebound, essentially throws B2 to the floor. At the same time, B1 fouls airborne shooter A1. They were so close in time that my partner never knew I blew my whistle. We both sounded our whistles at exactly the same time and for the same duration. Partner and I had a brief discussion to determine the order (and if it mattered). If A2 commited the foul before the release...dead ball. We concluded that the ball was airborne and that both fouls were during the live ball. So we charged both fouls (new definition this year "Simultaneous fouls"). The shooting team had the arrow so they were getting the ball after any FTs. The only question was where to put the ball in play. My foul would put it in play on the endline. The other foul on the sideline. In the heat of the game, I counldn't remember what to do, so I basically made it up...I picked a spot halfway between the fouls and then chose the closest spot which led to and endline throwin. Right after we had the ball in play, I remembered the case: The spot is where the team that has the arrow got fouled. We should have taken the ball on the sideline.

BktBallRef Fri Jan 24, 2003 06:28pm

Correct. When going to the arrow on a SF, go to the spot nearest the foul committed by the team not getting the ball.

Teddly Fri Jan 24, 2003 10:56pm

How would this play be handled using NCAA rules(Mens)?
Someone out there!
Thanks

Nevadaref Sun Jan 26, 2003 07:21am

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Originally posted by Camron Rust
"Simultaneous fouls" The shooting team had the arrow so they were getting the ball after any FTs.
I hope that there weren't any FTs awarded!

Camron Rust Mon Jan 27, 2003 09:15pm

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
Quote:

Originally posted by Camron Rust
"Simultaneous fouls" The shooting team had the arrow so they were getting the ball after any FTs.
I hope that there weren't any FTs awarded!

We messed that up too. :(

Lotto Mon Jan 27, 2003 10:02pm

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Originally posted by Teddly
How would this play be handled using NCAA rules(Mens)?
In NCAA, this would be handled exactly the same way (men or women).

BktBallRef Tue Jan 28, 2003 12:01am

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Originally posted by Camron Rust
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
Quote:

Originally posted by Camron Rust
"Simultaneous fouls" The shooting team had the arrow so they were getting the ball after any FTs.
I hope that there weren't any FTs awarded!

We messed that up too. :(

OUCH!! :(

Nevadaref Tue Jan 28, 2003 04:07am

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
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Originally posted by Camron Rust
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Originally posted by Camron Rust
"Simultaneous fouls" The shooting team had the arrow so they were getting the ball after any FTs.
I hope that there weren't any FTs awarded!

We messed that up too. :(

OUCH!! :(

Well Camron, at least you are honest. How many others would admit that mistake on the board? I'll work with you anytime.


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