Kid was on the floor on his back, gets the ball between his feet, sits up and grabs the ball from between his feet and manages to pass it off. I've got a great game going and I'll be darned if I'm going to make up something just to have a whistle, I no-called it. The other coach wanted a travel, but don't they always when a player and ball are both on the floor at the same time. Not to pick on ya, Z, but I think your interpretation is a stretch at best. Why insert ourselves into the game when we don't have to, is my motto, JMHO.

Don't worry about picking on me Devdog. I don't take any of this debating personal. :-) In your situation, it sounds as if the ball just got stuck between his legs and the player did not intentionally use his legs. In that case, I'd have nothing also.

However, if I felt that he had done it intentionally, I still believe that the "kicking rule" is designed to prevent players from <i> intentionally </i> using their legs to play the ball and I would call it a kick. I'd love it if the NFHS would clarify the rule or address the use of legs (without "striking the ball") in a case book play.

Z

Let's go back to Chuck's description of the play and change one thing --player is hold ball in his hands and pivoting on his buttucks. What would the call be? To help me make this call, I will relate what the IABBO board 12 interpreter said: A player can slide on the floor with the ball and if if is on his back when the slide stops he can only sit up. Any other movement (rolling over, etc) is traveling. In Chuck's play, the player is sitting on the floor twirling. I gotto go with traveling based on what I have learned.

I do not think grasping or squeezing the ball with the bottom portion of your legs constitutes an intentional kick. JMHO.