College Mechanics More Lenient?
 

In our HS association there is a big push for universal mechanics between the officials (Chopping clock, counting with full hand, ect.). However, with college ball would you say officials have more leniency on their mechanics?

Depends entirely on your supervisor. You need to know your audience.

Start off doing the right thing. Pay attention to what the successful officials are doing to see which variances you can get away with.

Absolutely
 

They want each official to chop/count the same??
I can understand wanting everyone to stop the clock properly & no finger pointing on directional signals, but Good Luck with that other stuff!

When is the last time you've seen a NCAA-M official stop the clock on an OOB call?

"Want" is the key word
 

The assignor wants to see a full hand count and chop the clock with a full hand.

Well, until you are in a position to NOT do what the assignor WANTS and still get games it's best to do what he wants.

I have participated in college camps where this very mechanic is very important to the supervisor and I have been to other camps where they don't give a damn if you chop at all.

Even under John Adams vision of making officiating look alike across the NCAA nation I don't think "open hand vs. 1 finger vs. 2 finger" pointing is something he cares about. That will still be a "when in Rome" type deal.

About 6 years ago...cause that's when they changed the NCAA mechanics so that a hand up on an oob call was no longer required. It is required in NFHS games, so we should be using it when working HS ball.

*Do I really have to walk to the parking lot & get my CCA book*

I think you might

Go for it...hope it's not raining where you are.

Ok & yes it is raining, but I took the shuttle.

Is OOB not a violation?
Page 74 & 75 of the Mens CCA manual...

This is a difference between the men's and women's mechanic. Women's officials do not stop the clock on out of bounds violations. In men's mechanics, stopping the clock is still (technically) required.

Just like the blocking foul signal with closed fists is really a Womens/NBA signal & open hand is Mens/HS.

They used to tell me "closed fists is college."
Half truths used to confuse me until I began reading each rulebook for myself.

You will never catch me signaling a block with hands on the hips...absolutely weak signal. I think the only person I've seen with hands on the hips at any level with any consistency is Dick Bervetta.

I hear ya, IMO one handed reporting is weak compared to two handed... I guess its all about who one works for & what their personal preferences are.

Everything we do is supervisor or assignor driven. I watched a couple of videos from a HS organization where they showed calls and I did not see a hardly a single mechanic that was "by the book." I know that when I work college games and the people I work for, we have to use the right mechanics. Now as said I have never been asked to have my fingers in the perfect direction or the way the book shows, but we have to do all the basic things like stop the clock and chop the clock properly. I will be attending a college camp this weekend and it has always been required by the supervisor to do the proper mechanics. We watch too much TV and think that applies to everyone or that someone without the standing of those officials can get away with variations.

Peace

I also personally like two handed reporting better...especially for double numbers where there's no chance of the scorer missing a number (this is a case where I'll still do two handed reporting during the season).

The people I work for do not even advocate using them or doing it. I do not like it has I think it looks silly and more about the NBA. I think your voice and strength in your mechanics is what makes you look good. But then again this is 6 in one hand, a half a dozen in the other.

Peace

I do definitely think that one's voice is very important in reporting...the only thing is sometimes you'll have a scorer who for some reason pays attention only to the numbers you show or just your voice...not both. Not everyone can be as vigilant as our favorite scorer. ;)

Beside using a "loose ball" signal in a HS/College game, what's wrong with copying the 60 best??
To me the only time 2 handed reporting "looks silly" is when the reporting official can read it themselves :rolleyes:
IMO if our books were written as clearly as theirs & we had the same big picture mentality they have, "Oh What a Wonderful World it Would Be!"


Value of voice is priceless!

I do not see what mechanics you use has to do with following the best. I could even personally make an argument that those in the NBA are not always the best. That is a different level anyway but I probably could find more than that number that if they wanted to could work an NBA game. I think it looks silly for what we have to do. The NBA does this while walking and talking and we cannot do that the same in the college ranks (or at least not by what the main supervisors say). If you like it that is fine with me, but I think it would be mostly inappropriate at the HS level and most college officials I know do not do this either. Just my opinion, not something I feel that strongly about. But just because the NBA does something I do not think we all should do something. Different rules and different standards.

Peace

True JRut, they are 60 of the best that received & cashed in on an opportunity.
Ok I understand what makes it look silly to you. We can agree to disagree, because flashing the number all at once is better than twice. You are correct though, I do not practice this in HS games, one of my college supervisors doesnt want it at all & the other doesnt care.

Also keep in mind those guys decided to go that route. Not everyone wants to go that way or would go through the process to get in the NBA. That has nothing to do with whether their mechanics are better or worse. It is more about that what is required at that level. If they changed our mechanics tomorrow I would adapt. If I have a choice I will stick to what I already do. Life is too short to worry about this very long anyway.

Peace

In NCAA Men's, it is REQUIRED? Or is it OPTIONAL?

CCA Mens Pg 74 says:

When an official calls a violation:

A. Simultaneously give a single sharp blast of the whistle, signal timeout, then drop whistle from the mouth. More than one blast should be used in unusual situations.

Pg 75 says:

Three distinct and seperate movements may be made for an out-of-bounds call: Stop clock, point direction, then indicate the throw-in spot.
There is a diagram showing this as well.

The word "may" is whats causing the confusion, they should've used "shall" instead...