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Player A1 penetrates the lane and goes up for layup. As he attempts the layup, B1 makes a play to contest the shot and A1, in mid-air, passes the ball to the perimeter . There is no player to receive or intercept the pass (no other player touched the ball)and A1 retrieves the ball and (a)holds the ball without moving either foot, (b) passes the ball to a team mate, (c) shoots the ball, or (d) dribbles the ball. Is there a violation in any or all of these situations.
Please answer with rule book citation as our association members came up with multiple answers ranging from "travel" to "double dribble" to "nothing" and all had rule book rationale for their decisions. Thanks in advance for input. 
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Tue Jan 14, 2003, 07:27pm
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Traveling in all of your situations.
(Rule #'s to follow) Dude
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Tue Jan 14, 2003, 07:36pm
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The traveling occurs when he retrieves the ball, not when any of your 4 scenarios occurs.
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Wed Jan 15, 2003, 05:19pm
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80 hits and two replies. Thanks Dude and BktBllRef. I presume it is conclusive.....it is a travel! We only had 15 members at our meeting and had alot of different thoughts on this.
More replies are welcome to make me a little more comfortable with my report back to our group. Again, I appreciate any and all or your feedback. This site has proven to be a place for a wealth of knowledge by people very serious about our officiating avocation. Thanks to all
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Wed Jan 15, 2003, 05:25pm
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Thu Jan 16, 2003, 04:31am
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I understand the play to be that A1 was dribbling down the lane, then ends the dribble and/(while) jumps/(ing) for a shot, but then decides while in the air to pass the ball back out. A1 is then the first player to touch this pass.
After some thought, I believe that A1 has committed both a traveling violation and a double dribble violation. So either call is correct. If the pass hit the floor before A1 retreived it, then this can be considered a dribble. 4-15-3. Since A1 has already dribbled before jumping this is a second dribble. 9-5 It is also a traveling violation for starting a dribble with the pivot foot off the floor. 4-43-3c If the pass never hit the floor, then A1 has only traveled. Lastly, if A1 somehow was able to penetrate the lane without dribbling and then does this, it is only a travel.
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Thu Jan 16, 2003, 07:55am
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 I agree - traveling.
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Fri Jan 17, 2003, 02:23pm
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I would call this one a travel once A1 is airborne and passes the ball he cannot retreive his own pass. In any case you better call something travel or double dribble (if A1 dribbled before he went airborne) because if you don't you ain't gonna have no behind left. Great question made me think. Keep it up.
[Edited by baldy1 on Jan 17th, 2003 at 01:26 PM]
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Fri Jan 17, 2003, 05:17pm
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Fri Jan 17, 2003, 05:31pm
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Sat Jan 18, 2003, 02:14am
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I'm just having trouble physically seeing this happen. It's like the question on the test about the ball coming to rest in the backcourt. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to object to the physics of this!
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