First, the traditional pre-apology for venting.

I've come to the conclusion that I'm doomed/scheduled to have one horrible game per season. (Last year, it was the one that ended on a flagrant technical - http://www.officialforum.com/showthr...hreadid=3295).

Tonight, I had an excellent first game, a sloppy but well handled second game, and a good first half of a third game.

Then all hell broke loose. Gold started losing control of their mouths and reactions, and I ended up assessing 4 technical fouls (1 flagrant) before forfeiting the game. (Total of five for the night - still less than my record).

The supervisors and other refs were completely supportive of all of my T calls, and wrote as such in the official game report. I wrote out my own game report, and wanted to post it here for any critique you can think of - either the calls themselves and/or the report.

Thanks.
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(Gold) vs. (Blue)
Court 2 - 9:00PM
R, U1, U2 (me)

Background
I was at T opposite, with R at L and U1 at C. L called a foul against the defense (Gold) on a shooting foul in which the ball went into the basket. Two points were scored, and as R reported the foul, I rotated into the L position to administer the one free throw.


Technical #1
Several of the gold players began to complain to me quite voiciferously about the foul. I assessed a technical foul to one of the players (42 Gold, I believe) and went to report the technical foul to the table.


Technical #2
As I was reporting the first technical foul, the captain of Gold (95 Gold) came up to me complaining about both the original common foul and the technical I had assessed to his teammate. I gave him a bit of time to talk and, when it became too much, I assessed a technical foul to 95 Gold.


I then proceeded to administer the 5 free throws - 1 for the common foul and 4 for the technicals. I administered the first FT and assumed that the player shooting the common foul throw would be the same for the technical throws, as he stayed in the circle. I then administered the four technical foul free throws (5 attempts were taken - Gold 95 had violated on one of them) and prepared to have the new T inbound the ball at the division line. At this point, a different blue player (the one who had actually been fouled in the first place) stepped to the line to attempt his free throw for the personal foul.

I went to the table, realizing that the first free throw had been taken by the wrong player, and would have to be attempted by the actual shooter. According to the table (Supervisor 1), the first free throw had been missed. I announced that the first free throw would be repeated, as it had been taken by the wrong person. At this point, gold began to get quite upset, so Supervisor 2 suggested we simply consider the free throw no good and give blue the ball at the division line.


Technical #3
Several gold players then became angry that we were going to set aside a rule, even though it would be to their advantage. Gold 75 took the ball in frustration and threw it into Court 1. I assessed a flagrant technical foul and ejected Gold 75 (he remained on the bench for the remainder of the game). We did not re-shoot the first shot with the correct shooter - just went straight to the 2 FT's for blue and then quickly put the ball back in play.


Technical #4
Similar to #1, a player (38 Gold, I believe) was complaining about a foul before a FT was taken. I assessed 38(?) a technical foul - we shot the 1 FT for the personal foul, then 2 FT's for the technical foul.


End of Game
With approximately 45 seconds left, the game was stopped for a violation or foul of some sort. The Gold captain (95) took off his shirt and threw it towards his bench. Several other of the players did the same in disgust. R was about to assess a technical foul (I believe it would have been one of the players' 2nd - automatic forfeit), when I forfeited the game due to failure to play and making a travesty of the game.


After Game
After the game was called, I went to midcourt and waited a bit. I then slowly approached the table. As I did, many of the gold players made comments to me. I was at the table when one of the players came up behind me and went as if to give me a pat on the rear, so to speak. Not knowing what to expect from him, I pushed his hand away before he made contact and told him not to touch me. He then claimed that it was I who had touched him first. He did, however, feel the need to give me an actual pat on the buttocks before he left.

Only the Referee can declare the game a forfeit. You might have come out looking less the bad guy if you had let him handle it, and possibly allowed someone to handle a couple of the Ts as well.

Just my thoughts.

[Edited by BktBallRef on Jan 16th, 2003 at 01:58 AM]

Tony is slightly mistaken about #1. You correctly went from T to L after the L called the first foul, since you were opposite the table. The L will become the new C.
However, after you called the first two techs, you should not have administered the free throws, but gone opposite to the C position. This would have put the official that called to original foul back at lead to administer the 5 free throws. Hopefully, he would have remembered his shooter and thus prevented that error from happening.
Tony is right on about #2.
I'll add a #3. You guys were totally wrong to set aside a rule. Your job is to follow the rules, not to decide to whose advantage it would be. Put the correct shooter on the line and shoot that shot.

My mistake. I though Mark called the first foul. His post was so long, I didn't read it carefully enough.

I've always said that being "callipygian" can sometimes be a greater asset to an official than having "presence". This is a trait that new officials should work on diligently!

Trying to give a hint as to the definition, JR? :D

:D ROTFLMCAO - Rolling on the floor laughing my callipygous *** off.

Hillarious! Jurasic, how'd you even know this word?


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adj.

Having beautifully proportioned buttocks.

Mark,
Sorry to hear you had such a difficult game. But I'm glad to know a senior member of this site has difficult games also. We had our assoc. meeting last night & spent about 40 minutes discussing one HS that has similar troubles on a regular basis. So we have our problems too.

Mark,
At this point could you have disarmed the players with a "Relax, fellas", or a "Take it easy", or a stop sign?
mick

:D ROTFLMCAO - Rolling on the floor laughing my callipygous *** off.

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No disrepect to Mark, but you become a senior member of this board simply by posting a number of times. Again, no disrespect to Mark, but a total idiot could become a senior member just by replying to every post. (Take me for example, I'm a senior member too.)

I hope everyone learns something from this wreck. We get into situations like this and sometimes what we try to do to reel the game back in (calling T's in this case) does not make the game better. My first thought as I read through the scenario was, where are your partners in all of this? It read like there was only one sherriff in town.

Mark,

I was wondering the same thing as Stripes. What happened to your partners? When I call a T if at all possible I try to get away from the table and players. We work mostly two man and it isn't always possible. But with three man you should have been able to go opposite the table on the end of the players. Usually shooting free throws with the lane cleared the players tend to congregate toward the bench. If there is additional talk then your partners can get the next T. But I have never had a game get as out of hand as the one you describe so I can't talk from experience. I only know that the adreniline gets pumping when you call a T and sometimes ones emotions take over.

I'm a little confused, how can the Umpire forfit a game. Rule 2 section(help me out guys, no rule book here) 5 maybe?? says that only the referee has the power to forfit a game.

Like i said, I don't rememeber the section in the fed book as to where this exactly is located. I'm not as familiar with NCAA mechanics, but is it any different in the college ranks?

Thanks

Tyler

Hey JR, I think it's for you...

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:p

I think Mark found himself in "too-many-mens-rec-league-games" hell and couldn't find the door to get out. Cut him some slack guys, we have ALL been there.

Even I had to laugh at that one,Slappy.

You do realize that you are gonna be VERY,VERY sorry that you did that though ,don't you?

OH MY GOODNESS
 

How many T's did you call by yourself??????

And the "Coordinator" at the site's conduct????

OH MY.......


I'm speechless on this one, wouldn't know where to start....maybe we can go to Rut's house, bring a case of beer and start a new camp? (ROFLMFAO)

Sound good Rut?

This sounds like an unbelievable cluster. You have to be in the running for the worst game of the year.

This truly sounds like Rec league hell. Here is something I have used in the past when it looks like things are going to be like this the whole game. I will get the coaches together and let them know that we have heard enough complaining and we are not going to tolerate anymore from the coaches or players. I then let the coaches know that I am going over to the table to check some things out for the next 10-15 seconds and that I expect them to use this time to relay what I have said to their players. I then step away
blow my whistle and instruct the players go to their benches
and call my partner to the table and go over what was said.
It has worked more often than not to get everyones mind back on playing ball and off the complaining.

MD,

Does your intermural league use NF or NCAA rules?

Quote: (5 attempts were taken - Gold 95 had violated on one of them)

Mark, why were there players in the blocks? Wouldn't all five shots have been with only a shooter on the line or did I miss something here???

By the way - tough luck, tough game. Men's rec league will certainly stress and bend every rule in the book!

Obviously, G95 stepped below the FT extended, or he disconcerted. ;)

I wish.

We had been trying to get them to calm down all game long (we were in the second half by this point), and even here I believe I said something to this effect or a "that's enough, let's just play," etc.

I am CONFUSED too
 

Three consecutive games and working 3-whistle games???

Mark,

Still sounds like your partners should have been more involved here....no way one guy out of three should be (or should be forced into) calling all these T's.

As for yourself, relax. Every official has something every year they remember for the wrong reason.

Just take pride in the fact you're doing something only one out of every 1000 people could do...and stick with.

I just don't get upset....
 

over rec ball anymore.

I started working the local league in January. Something to do on Wednesday nights (I will only do one night a week during the season).

Last night I heard more whining than I'd hear in 10 seasons of HS ball. I ignore all of it. It's rec ball. It makes me thankful for the prep howler monkeys :)

Rich

Not quite, mick - he stepped over the 3 PT line outside of the FT line extended. :p

Now for some of the other questions:

Yes, it is an intramural league - slightly modified NF rules with (generally) no coaches. (Just captains - can be tough when you T up the captain.)

Yes, we use 3-person mechanics (don't know why at times). Yes, we do 3 games per night (running clock).

As to the ref/umpire situation: the R was the R for the sole reason that he conducted the jump ball. I've been told by this year's boss that we're *all* referees on the court (should be fun if we ever have a dispute on a last second shot) and told by the boss last year that any official has the authority to forfeit the game if circumstances warrant.

Senior members - no disrespect taken, Stripes.

Re: I just don't get upset....
 

Hear, hear!

It's probably better training than Padgett's suggestion of a treadmill in a dark closet. :)

I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty-headed
animal, food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction.

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Then that works.

But honestly Mark, you have an opportunity to grow as an official if you can walk away from some of these types of situations. If it has to happen, fine. But it would be better if your partners would step in and shoulder some of the burden.

I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty-headed
animal, food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction.

[/B][/QUOTE]Oooooh! The pressure is on me now,folks!
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Tune in and watch JR get even!

Nyuck! Nyuck! Nyuck!