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APG Mon May 09, 2011 07:14pm

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Originally Posted by hoopsaddict (Post 757370)
I haven't seen Bynum's foul that people are referring to from 2-3 years ago. However I did see Bynum's foul from yesterday. I'm not sure people really understand how violent and "bush league" Bynum's foul was. A player who is airborn is compeltely defensless. To me, Bynum's foul was criminal and he should be suspended likewise. Anything less than a 10 game suspension would be down right unacceptable to me.

Not even close to the worse foul I've seen...do I think it was "bush league"....sure do. Criminal? Not in anyone's wildest dreams on a basketball court. What you're saying is Bynum should be suspended anywhere from 30 games to the entirety of next season...that's what Stephen Jackson and Ron Artest (73 regular + 13 post) missed respectively for their role in the Pacers-Pistons brawl for which they were charges brought against them....and that wasn't even for a basketball related foul.

JugglingReferee Mon May 09, 2011 08:50pm

JR.... what do you think about these fouls by the Lakers? :)

Nevadaref Mon May 09, 2011 09:26pm

I agree with APG's assessment. Odom's could have been a flagrant 1 under different circumstances, but here it was best to get him off the court. Bynum has a great deal of growing up to do. Flagrant 2 and 10 game ban is appropriate.

Now who knows what Cuban said to Jackson after the game? That is what I wish to learn.

Welpe Tue May 10, 2011 08:35am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 757372)
I think that's what he was talking about.

Yup. I have no idea how I managed to morph "years" into "yards". Obviously some synapses were not firing properly.

BktBallRef Tue May 10, 2011 02:37pm

Two months ago, Bynum was called for a flagrant 2 against Michael Beasley.

Two seasons ago, Bynum committed a flagrant foul on Ben Wallace, sending him to the hospital with a broken rib. I don't know if it was a flagrant 1 or 2.

Both fouls were just like the foul on Sunday. Bynum jumps and drives his forearm/elbow into an airborne shooter. You can find all three on youTube.

grunewar Tue May 10, 2011 05:05pm

It's all ok now.......(sarc)
 
He said he's sorry.......and I'm sure he's very, very sincere. :(

Los Angeles Lakers' Andrew Bynum apologizes for ugly shot on Dallas Mavericks' J.J. Barea - ESPN Los Angeles

Adam Tue May 10, 2011 07:11pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 757687)

The time for a meaningful apology was, at the latest, immediately after the game.

26 Year Gap Tue May 10, 2011 07:42pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 757708)
The time for a meaningful apology was, at the latest, immediately after the game.

+1 He is the new Artest, apparently.

APG Tue May 10, 2011 07:51pm

Los Angeles Lakers' Andrew Bynum suspended 5 games for J.J. Barea foul, fined $25K - ESPN Los Angeles

Got it right...five games it is plus a $25,000 fine. And the NBA only fined for taking off the shirt. I would have been shocked if they added games on for it. All and all he'll lose out on $702,272.

26 Year Gap Tue May 10, 2011 08:00pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 757719)
Los Angeles Lakers' Andrew Bynum suspended 5 games for J.J. Barea foul, fined $25K - ESPN Los Angeles

Got it right...five games it is plus a $25,000 fine. And the NBA only fined for taking off the shirt. I would have been shocked if they added games on for it. All and all he'll lose out on $702,272.

I hope if it gets donated to charity, that he doesn't get the tax benefit.

APG Tue May 10, 2011 08:13pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 757720)
I hope if it gets donated to charity, that he doesn't get the tax benefit.

When a player receives a technical foul, ejection, suspension (1/90th of his annual salary per game) or other fine, the money is split evenly between the league and Players Association. Each then donates its share to a charity or charities of their choosing.

26 Year Gap Tue May 10, 2011 08:19pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 757722)
When a player receives a technical foul, ejection, suspension (1/90th of his annual salary per game) or other fine, the money is split evenly between the league and Players Association. Each then donates its share to a charity or charities of their choosing.

I am okay with that as long as the offending player doesn't get the benefit. That would be like Snaqs getting speeding ticket and his fine being tax-deductible. Hypothetically speaking.

APG Tue May 10, 2011 08:33pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 757727)
I am okay with that as long as the offending player doesn't get the benefit. That would be like Snaqs getting speeding ticket and his fine being tax-deductible. Hypothetically speaking.

I wouldn't say their exactly the same...speeding is criminal offense. What Bynum did was an offense (a bush league one at that) committed during the actions of a sporting event. If I had to venture, I'd bet he's be able to get the tax break.

APG Tue May 10, 2011 08:36pm

Roni Deutch: The Tax Lady Blog: Lamar Odom Seeks Tax Deduction For NBA Fines and Fitness Fees

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Federal law generally prohibits tax deductions for financial sanctions resulting from criminal cases and matters like traffic violations. But Odom wrote, “The fines imposed by the team and the NBA are not imposed for the violation of any government law and are therefore not specifically excluded.”


Adam Tue May 10, 2011 08:53pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 757727)
I am okay with that as long as the offending player doesn't get the benefit. That would be like Snaqs getting speeding ticket and his fine being tax-deductible. Hypothetically speaking.

That reminds me, I need to file a revised tax return.

Do we get to count it twice if we get pulled over for speeding on our way to a game?


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