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BktBallRef Wed Apr 13, 2011 05:17pm

Kobe Bryant fined $100K
 
Kobe Bryant Calls Referee Bennie Adams 'F--king F--got' (VIDEO)

Raymond Wed Apr 13, 2011 05:38pm

He should have received a 2nd one for tossing the towel across the floor. :D

Mark Padgett Wed Apr 13, 2011 05:39pm

I guess Kobe will have to gather up all the change on his dresser. :rolleyes:

Jfpdi Wed Apr 13, 2011 09:38pm

The AP story had this line near the end of the article.


"Bryant was called for an additional technical foul that was rescinded Monday." Huh????????

Can we do that?

I guess the NBA has real Monday Morning Quarterbacks.

APG Wed Apr 13, 2011 09:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jfpdi (Post 750155)
The AP story had this line near the end of the article.


"Bryant was called for an additional technical foul that was rescinded Monday." Huh????????

Can we do that?

I guess the NBA has real Monday Morning Quarterbacks.

The league reviews all technical fouls as it relates to fines and total towards suspension. They do this since 16 technical fouls during the regular season or 7 technical fouls during the playoffs mandate a one game suspension. The technical foul they mentioned in the article was rescinded the next morning.

GoodwillRef Thu Apr 14, 2011 05:23am

I read Kobe's apology...not written by Kobe...then I heard him on a radio talk show not really caring at all. He said he was wrong but he was going to appeal the fine...he mentioned the Union appeals all fines and suspensions. Kobe is just plain and simple a "bad" person who is a gifted athlete. From the first day he was drafted out of high school when he told the Hornets he wouldn't play for them I have never liked him...NEVER! Kobe makes $271,000 a game...so what it $100,000 to Kobe?

Jurassic Referee Thu Apr 14, 2011 06:00am

Unless something has changed, all NBA disciplinary player fines are tax deductible. Charles Barkley was famous for pointing that out when he used to get nailed. The only real discipline imo would be if a player gets suspended for a meaningful number of games. Obviously that ain't ever gonna happen in the NBA to the Kobes of the league.

Imagine what would have happened if the official had said that to Bryant? Hell, he might be out looking up Big Jake to see if he can get hired in college D1.

mbyron Thu Apr 14, 2011 07:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 750249)
Imagine what would have happened if the official had said that to Bryant? Hell, he might be out looking up Big Jake to see if he can get hired in college D1.

Bad, bad... well, you know.

BktBallRef Thu Apr 14, 2011 06:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 750160)
The league reviews all technical fouls as it relates to fines and total towards suspension. They do this since 16 technical fouls during the regular season or 7 technical fouls during the playoffs mandate a one game suspension. The technical foul they mentioned in the article was rescinded the next morning.

Just to clarify, the T that was rescinded occurred over the weekend. It was not the T he was called for in the video.


Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 750237)
I read Kobe's apology...

What apology? I haven't seen one. All I've read is:

"What I said last night should not be taken literally. My actions were out of frustration during the heat of the game, period. The words expressed do NOT reflect my feelings towards the gay and lesbian communities and were NOT meant to offend anyone.”

There's no apology in that statement.

refiator Fri Apr 15, 2011 09:21pm

Two things wrong with this country ....Rap music and the NBA.

APG Fri Apr 15, 2011 09:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by refiator (Post 750773)
Two things wrong with this country ....Rap music and the NBA.

I guess there's something wrong with me because I'm a fan of both rap music and the NBA. :rolleyes:

Welpe Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:46am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 750774)
I guess there's something wrong with me because I'm a fan of both rap music and the NBA. :rolleyes:


QED....



I keed I Keed :D

JRutledge Sat Apr 16, 2011 01:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 750774)
I guess there's something wrong with me because I'm a fan of both rap music and the NBA. :rolleyes:

There must be a lot wrong with the country because both are some of the most popular things in this country. Go figure. ;)

Peace

BillyMac Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:30am

Not Many Of Us Left ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 750796)
There must be a lot wrong with the country because both are some of the most popular things in this country. Go figure.

NBA's TV ratings up across all national networks - ESPN

I guess that I'm in the minority. I am not a big NBA fan, nor can I wrap my arms around rap.

I was a big NBA fan back when I was a young man. Loved watching the Celtics on Sunday afternoons on ABC. Bill Russell was, and still is, one of my favorite athletes. Loved watching the Knicks on local television (WOR-TV Channel 9). Look up teamwork in the dictionary and you'll see a picture of a Knicks team from the late 60's or early 70's. I still have fond memories of Willis Reed limping onto the court to help beat the Lakers in game seven. I somehow lost my love of NBA basketball. It was slightly revived during the Larry Bird/Earvin Johnson era, but that didn't last very long. I'll occasionally watch a Celtic game, when there's absolutely nothing else on television, but that will only be for a few minutes.

I have never liked rap (although I will sometimes enjoy the background songs that some rap artists sample). It might have something to do with the fact that I have never, ever, appreciated poetry. It also might have something to do with some of the themes (anti-women, anti-police), and the use of profanity, that seems to be very common in many rap songs. I do like some of the more "tame" stuff that Eminem, or Jay-Z, might perform on Letterman (love it when Dave calls him Marshall) but that's about as far as it goes for me.

Raymond Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by refiator (Post 750773)
Two things wrong with this country ....Rap music and the NBA.

Guess you better get out of Atlanta then. :rolleyes:

JRutledge Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 750878)
I have never liked rap (although I will sometimes enjoy the background songs that some rap artists sample). It might have something to do with the fact that I have never, ever, appreciated poetry. It also might have something to do with some of the themes (anti-women, anti-police), and the use of profanity, that seems to be very common in many rap songs. I do like some of the more "tame" stuff that Eminem, or Jay-Z, might perform on Letterman (love it when Dave calls him Marshall) but that's about as far as it goes for me.

You must not have ever listened to much popular music in your life, because that could be said about just about any of it. When I was growing up and Heavy Metal was popular just about every song was about drinking, women and getting in trouble. But the music was not created by guys that were from the urban areas so I guess too many that is OK. ;)

That being said the most popular forms of music today is rap or urban figures. I am not a fan of today's music either, but it has nothing to do with rap music. When Justin Bieber is popular there is not much for me to be interested in. No one is original and no one does anything that sets them apart. And even a silly show like American Idol does not have the most talented people win that can actually sing, that is a problem. But like everything people blame rap for everything like people here blame the NBA for everything. I wonder why??

Peace

JRutledge Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:37pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 750891)
Guess you better get out of Atlanta then. :rolleyes:

Yes, too many Black people that like rap and the NBA. ;)

Peace

Adam Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 750923)
Yes, too many Black people that like rap and the NBA. ;)

Peace

There are people that like the NBA in Atlanta?

Mark Padgett Sat Apr 16, 2011 01:04pm

Well, when I was a kid, these guys were on top. Check out the hot mom dancers.

YouTube - Bill Haley & His Comets - "Hot Dog Buddy Buddy" - from "Don't Knock The Rock" - HQ 1956

Adam Sat Apr 16, 2011 01:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 750922)
You must not have ever listened to much popular music in your life, because that could be said about just about any of it. When I was growing up and Heavy Metal was popular just about every song was about drinking, women and getting in trouble. But the music was not created by guys that were from the urban areas so I guess too many that is OK. ;)

I never cared for either for the same reason. I like a good portion of R&B, Country (not Western, though), and the newer rock/pop stuff is growing on me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 750922)
That being said the most popular forms of music today is rap or urban figures. I am not a fan of today's music either, but it has nothing to do with rap music. When Justin Bieber is popular there is not much for me to be interested in. No one is original and no one does anything that sets them apart. And even a silly show like American Idol does not have the most talented people win that can actually sing, that is a problem. But like everything people blame rap for everything like people here blame the NBA for everything. I wonder why??

Peace

I'm no Bieber fan, either, but he's no different than the bubblegum stuff from 10-15-25, or even 30 years ago.

Since the NBA used to be more popular than it is now, and has always had (during my lifetime, anyway) essentially the same racial mix up, I don't think it's sinking popularity is racial in nature.

I think it has more to do with few converging factors: more media paying attention to the exploits of 19 y/o millionaires, less time in college for the player to develop some semblance of maturity as well as a following, and a relative increase in the money being handed out combined with perhaps a bit of jealousy on the part of the average fan.

Raymond Sat Apr 16, 2011 01:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 750928)
there's people that like the NBA in Atlanta?

"There is people..."

Really Snaqs? :mad:

BillyMac Sat Apr 16, 2011 01:24pm

The Same Can Be Said For Me ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 750931)
Check out the hot mom dancers.

Wonder what they look like today? Ouch!

Mark Padgett Sat Apr 16, 2011 01:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 750932)
Since the NBA used to be more popular than it is now, and has always had the same racial mix up.....

Snaq - not exactly true. The NBA started as an all white enterprise in 1946 and changed slowly over the years at first starting in 1950.

First African-American NBA Players - Hoopedia

Adam Sat Apr 16, 2011 01:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 750938)
Snaq - not exactly true. The NBA started as an all white enterprise in 1946 and changed slowly over the years at first starting in 1950.

True, but what should have been obvious is that I was referring to the popularity of the 80s and 90s, since I couldn't possibly remember or care about the NBA of the 40s and 50s.

APG Sat Apr 16, 2011 01:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 750932)
I never cared for either for the same reason. I like a good portion of R&B, Country (not Western, though), and the newer rock/pop stuff is growing on me.



I'm no Bieber fan, either, but he's no different than the bubblegum stuff from 10-15-25, or even 30 years ago.

Since the NBA used to be more popular than it is now, and has always had the same racial mix up, I don't think it's sinking popularity is racial in nature.

I think it has more to do with few converging factors: more media paying attention to the exploits of 19 y/o millionaires, less time in college for the player to develop some semblance of maturity as well as a following, and a relative increase in the money being handed out combined with perhaps a bit of jealousy on the part of the average fan.

There's plenty of horrible music in the rap genre...I won't deny it, but there's plenty of other crap in the other genres as well. I don't see those genres being blamed for the downfall of America.

To your point about NBA popularity, the NBA is experiencing some of its best ratings since the end of the Jordan era. Last year's game 7 of the NBA Finals was the most watched basketball game since the Bulls vs. Jazz game 6 game with the infamous shot from Jordan.
NBA Finals Game 7 Average 28.2 Million Viewers, Highest Since 1998


NBA's TV ratings up across all national networks - ESPN
Quote:

The NBA says its three national TV partners all had their most viewers ever this season, topped by a 42 percent increase for TNT.ABC was up 38 percent and ESPN had a 28 percent jump, the league said Friday.

Arena capacity was 90.3 percent, its seventh straight year of 90 or better, and the 17,306 average was up 1 percent from last year and was its fifth highest.
NBA labor: Don't believe the hype - ESPN
Quote:

And let's be perfectly clear on something, when attendance is up for the seventh consecutive season, when television ratings are up 38 percent on ABC, 28 percent on ESPN and 42 percent on TNT, when video views on NBA.com are up 140 percent from a year ago, when global merchandise sales are up 20 percent in the past 12 months, there can be no question that business is booming.

BillyMac Sat Apr 16, 2011 01:36pm

It's Kosher ...
 
Let's not forget the impact and influence of Jews in “the city game.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=5kS_faczjKk

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/..._CityGame.html

Quoted from website above: "Today, the city game belongs to African-Americans. In the future, it will pass to Hispanics and other new immigrant groups."

The racial, and ethnic, makeup of "our game" has always evolved. Who would have guessed, fifty years ago, that teams from other continents would be able to compete with players that grew up in the country where basketball was born?

Adam Sat Apr 16, 2011 01:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 750941)
There's plenty of horrible music in the rap genre...I won't deny it, but there's plenty of other crap in the other genres as well. I don't see those genres being blamed for the downfall of America.

I won't speak to many genres, but you make a good point. I personally put as much blame on heavy metal as I do rap: very little. I think these musical issues are more symptomatic than causative.

BktBallRef Sat Apr 16, 2011 01:38pm

I HATE rap.

Guess what?

I also HATE country music.

When I watch the NBA, I watch it for entertainment value.

What's entertainemnt to me? A multi-millionaire getting stuck in the *** by a referee for acting like a spolied brat.

BillyMac Sat Apr 16, 2011 01:43pm

New York, New York ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 750922)
You must not have ever listened to much popular music in your life?

Love this: YouTube - "Empire State of Mind" Jay-Z | Alicia Keys [OFFICIAL VIDEO]

BillyMac Sat Apr 16, 2011 01:52pm

Classic ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 750932)
I like a good portion of R&B, Country (not Western, though).

http://www.youtube.com/v/cSZfUnCK5qk...s=1&autoplay=1

Camron Rust Sat Apr 16, 2011 02:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 750946)
I HATE rap.

Guess what?

I also HATE country music.

My sentiments exactly.

Mark Padgett Sat Apr 16, 2011 02:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 750946)
I also HATE country music.

As far as I'm concerned, the term "country music" is an oxymoron. :p

BillyMac Sat Apr 16, 2011 02:58pm

To Quote The Esteemed Ozzie Osbourne ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 750922)
When Justin Bieber is popular there is not much for me to be interested in.

What's a Bieber?


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