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bob jenkins Sun Apr 03, 2011 07:36am

NCAAW Final Four Conversation
 
chitter chatter here

Judtech Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:07pm

I don't think that ND has the horses to stay with UConn. If the Huskies play Stanford in the national championship game it MAY set the record for hte largest blow out, Men's or Women's, in National Championship Game history. I would NOT want to play a motivated UCONN team!!
Having said that, I can see Texas A/M upsetting Stanford b/c the Cardinal are looking past them.

grunewar Sun Apr 03, 2011 08:22pm

Good Call
 
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Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 746447)
Having said that, I can see Texas A/M upsetting Stanford b/c the Cardinal are looking past them.

While it probably wasn't because the looked passed em, you predicted correctly.

The last four minutes of this game were excellent and the ending was as good as any men's tournament game.

Adam Sun Apr 03, 2011 08:24pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 746519)
While it probably wasn't because the looked passed em, you predicted correctly.

The last four minutes of this game were excellent and the ending was as good as any men's tournament game.

That's a pretty high bar.

grunewar Sun Apr 03, 2011 08:29pm

I know.....
 
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 746520)
That's a pretty high bar.

and I stand by it.

A&M outscored Stanford 19-8 coming down to the end. It was an excellent final two minutes with several lead changes and great, well executed ball. The final points were scored with A&M scoring with 3.3 seconds left on a full court play (with no TO's left) after Stanford took the lead with 10 seconds left.

Adam Sun Apr 03, 2011 08:41pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 746521)
and I stand by it.

A&M outscored Stanford 19-8 coming down to the end. It was an excellent final two minutes with several lead changes and great, well executed ball. The final points were scored with A&M scoring with 3.3 seconds left on a full court play (with no TO's left) after Stanford took the lead with 10 seconds left.

Better than Duke/Kentucky? Better than Bryce Drew? I'll take your word for it (watching 1978 Superman with the family; daughter's first time seeing it).

grunewar Sun Apr 03, 2011 08:49pm

My point of course being that this was an excellent finish - and while many here aren't excited at calling/watching "girls" ball, this was a good one.

MathReferee Sun Apr 03, 2011 08:49pm

I am glad I left my office to watch the last 1:30, it was a great finish. BUT, it did lack an actual buzzer beater, so I can't rank it as high as the Kentucky/Duke game. I will say it would be pretty high up there though in finishes considering it was a final four game.

grunewar Sun Apr 03, 2011 08:52pm

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Originally Posted by AustinRef (Post 746526)
BUT, it did lack an actual buzzer beater, so I can't rank it as high as the Kentucky/Duke game.

I'll concede this point.

Adam Sun Apr 03, 2011 08:53pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 746525)
My point of course being that this was an excellent finish - and while many here aren't excited at calling/watching "girls" ball, this was a good one.

I don't disagree with this. I enjoy a good girls game, too. I do not, however, get them as often as with boys.

grunewar Sun Apr 03, 2011 09:11pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 746528)
I enjoy a good girls game, too. I do not, however, get them as often as with boys.

Agreed. That's my experience too.

Juulie Downs Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:57pm

A buzzer beater is a nice ending, but a defending champion losing in the semi when they've lost only one total game in the last three years is a great ending, no matter WHAT the spread.

Seeing Auriemma literally clutching his hair in both fists was PRICELESS!!

Not that I begrudge them their wins, although I do, but they have earned them. But it's always nice to see such a Goliath fall!

Juulie Downs Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:59pm

And, btw, there are NO number 1's left in either final. THat's kinda cool. And although "parity" in women's is a long ways from equaling men's, still, none of the women's power teams from the last five years are in the final, and it's the first Final 4 for Texas A & M. So here is a baby step forward in the direction of parity.

Nevadaref Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:37am

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Originally Posted by Juulie Downs (Post 746554)
And, btw, there are NO number 1's left in either final. THat's kinda cool. And although "parity" in women's is a long ways from equaling men's, still, none of the women's power teams from the last five years are in the final, and it's the first Final 4 for Texas A & M. So here is a baby step forward in the direction of parity.

Agreed and nice to see you posting again.

:)

grunewar Mon Apr 04, 2011 04:08am

ABC Fans......
 
There's a lot of ABC Fans out there.

Anybody But Connecticut!

And ole Gino's face was priceless!

AND, I echo Nevada, nice to see your posts again Juulie!

Judtech Mon Apr 04, 2011 07:11am

Apparently, the ND players attended Mass en Mass' yesterday!! Wow!!!
I'm the exception in that I have grown to like ole Geno. Having said that, I will not root for the Irish b/c of that 'interesting' blouse that Muffit had on yesterday. OR I really like the A and M coach, it is the first time I have seen them and I just love the way he handles his team.

7IronRef Mon Apr 04, 2011 04:27pm

Really?
 
When did they start having a wimin's tournament? :eek:

dahoopref Mon Apr 04, 2011 04:32pm

Is it me or is it weird that the key is designed with "phallic" tendencies? :eek:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedi...chineytall.jpg

Adam Mon Apr 04, 2011 04:33pm

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Originally Posted by 7IronRef (Post 746779)
When did they start having a wimin's tournament? :eek:

I believe it was the year IX.

Judtech Mon Apr 04, 2011 06:28pm

I thought it looked more like a thermometer!

Nevadaref Mon Apr 04, 2011 07:01pm

I thought that it looked like the lane from Hoosiers.

I don't agree with court-coloring or markings which could be confusing to the players, especially in the Final Four. Poor choice by the NCAA on this imo.

Judtech Mon Apr 04, 2011 07:35pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 746844)
I thought that it looked like the lane from Hoosiers.

I don't agree with court-coloring or markings which could be confusing to the players, especially in the Final Four. Poor choice by the NCAA on this imo.

you got a problem with HOOSIERS?? We can step outside!:eek:
Poor choice with the faux faded paint. Ugh

Nevadaref Mon Apr 04, 2011 08:16pm

My point was that that shape for the lane went out decades ago, so why would the court designer think that it is a good idea to bring it back for these games now? :confused:

Adam Mon Apr 04, 2011 09:02pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 746886)
My point was that that shape for the lane went out decades ago, so why would the court designer think that it is a good idea to bring it back for these games now? :confused:

Probably works for Nike.

Pantherdreams Tue Apr 05, 2011 06:11pm

My prediction for the women's final is that both teams will definitely shoot better then 20% from the floor.

eyezen Tue Apr 05, 2011 07:49pm

Not to be disparaging but there's quite a few empties throughout the arena, especially considering one of the schools is an instate school.

VaTerp Tue Apr 05, 2011 08:27pm

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Originally Posted by eyezen (Post 747271)
Not to be disparaging but there's quite a few empties throughout the arena, especially considering one of the schools is an instate school.

Which is a shame because this has been good basketball. It helps that I have a huge rooting interest (Skylar Diggins). :) But the play has been very good.

Officiating has been pretty spot on thus far IMO. And did I mention Skylar Diggins!

VaTerp Tue Apr 05, 2011 09:49pm

Looks like a full house to me.

billyu2 Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:01am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 746886)
My point was that that shape for the lane went out decades ago, so why would the court designer think that it is a good idea to bring it back for these games now? :confused:

Probably the same reason the Detroit Tigers infield has a dirt path from the mound to home plate.

Johnny Ringo Thu Apr 07, 2011 01:17am

Did anyone see the face/elbow contact in first half? Thoughts on the intentional foul call on that play? I thought the defender stuck her head into the path of the offensive players normal movement.

I know by rule, elbow to head contact warrants more than common foul, but this was a bit much to elevate call - I thought.

GoodwillRef Thu Apr 07, 2011 05:23am

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 747655)
Did anyone see the face/elbow contact in first half? Thoughts on the intentional foul call on that play? I thought the defender stuck her head into the path of the offensive players normal movement.

I know by rule, elbow to head contact warrants more than common foul, but this was a bit much to elevate call - I thought.

The problem is your definition or "normal movement." They (NCAA) want to get rid of ball handlers clearing out and swinging their elbow high in the defenders face.

CLH Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 747655)
Did anyone see the face/elbow contact in first half? Thoughts on the intentional foul call on that play? I thought the defender stuck her head into the path of the offensive players normal movement.

I know by rule, elbow to head contact warrants more than common foul, but this was a bit much to elevate call - I thought.

Normal offensive movement does not mean you cannot foul. They handled it smoothly and correctly. The rule is pretty clear and nowhere does it say, "this rule does not apply if a defender puts her head in the way."


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