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mikeb Wed Mar 30, 2011 02:05pm

Officials bashing other officials.....
 
Hey guys...gals hows it going? I don't know if this is relevant in your association or organization but I cannot stand when other officials say how much better of an official they are than another. I am currently in a very large organization one of the biggest in the country from what I have heard and every game I go to there is just another "story" talked about either pre game/halftime/or post game. I know yes I do get a kick out of other people bragging about themselves getting to officiate a top high school team or something along those lines. But really am I the only one that gets told these things? It just annoys me to hear others bash the fellow officials. Especially if you have to work with this guy hs,rec,or whatever. I know it is offseason but by me there is a lot of work still going around with aau, adult leagues, rec ball, and anything in between! Anyway I can not be the only one in this situation!

Adam Wed Mar 30, 2011 02:12pm

In my previous association, there were a couple of officials who would get discussed, but not many. I really don't see it in my current group, other than "he's/she's pretty good." Even the exceptions are more about demeanor than officiating.

Raymond Wed Mar 30, 2011 02:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeb (Post 745263)
Hey guys...gals hows it going? I don't know if this is relevant in your association or organization but I cannot stand when other officials say how much better of an official they are than another. I am currently in a very large organization one of the biggest in the country from what I have heard and every game I go to there is just another "story" talked about either pre game/halftime/or post game. I know yes I do get a kick out of other people bragging about themselves getting to officiate a top high school team or something along those lines. But really am I the only one that gets told these things? It just annoys me to hear others bash the fellow officials. Especially if you have to work with this guy hs,rec,or whatever. I know it is offseason but by me there is a lot of work still going around with aau, adult leagues, rec ball, and anything in between! Anyway I can not be the only one in this situation!

Are you in Northern VA? LOL

mikeb Wed Mar 30, 2011 02:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 745267)
Are you in Northern VA? LOL

Nope lol

grunewar Wed Mar 30, 2011 02:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 745267)
Are you in Northern VA? LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeb (Post 745269)
Nope lol

Well, it sounds like you could be! :rolleyes:

Thanks BNR!

tref Wed Mar 30, 2011 02:38pm

From my experiences both near & far, officials (for the most part) are the most gossipy, rumor spreading, school girl in the cafeteria bunch I have ever been associated with.

JRutledge Wed Mar 30, 2011 03:17pm

It comes with the territory. I would not be upset or alarmed by this. There are always going to be people with egos think someone should not be doing something that they are doing. This is not anything specific to an association or area of officiating as there are always people that cannot handle it when others are advancing past them or they are not where they think they should be. We all have egos to do this in the first place, but some do not have them in check.

Peace

big jake Wed Mar 30, 2011 03:55pm

I have been abused by several and it has hurt me very bad as I have been seeing some psy doctors and they put me on some medication. If I get better I might be at the NIT tomorrow with curtis, see you on the tube idiots

Raymond Wed Mar 30, 2011 03:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 745284)
I have been abused by several and it has hurt me very bad as I have been seeing some psy doctors and they put me on some medication. If I get better I might be at the NIT tomorrow with curtis, see you on the tube idiots

You're a NCAA-W official right? The Women's NIT is tonight and Friday.

Mark Padgett Wed Mar 30, 2011 04:01pm

Our local kids rec league had an official a few years ago who was the topic of discussion every time any of the officials who worked that league got together, especially if the officials were fairly young and inexperienced. They would discuss everything from how that official dressed to that official's demeanor to that official's appearance. Of course, it was because that official was a hot college co-ed. :D

rockyroad Wed Mar 30, 2011 04:02pm

Easiest way to deal with this type of stuff is to simply not participate. When others start "bashing" on people in your Association, simply change the subject to a story about you. Or just walk away. Once people start letting others know that it isn't acceptable, people will stop doing it. It's a slow process, but I've seen it work.

tref Wed Mar 30, 2011 04:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 745287)
Easiest way to deal with this type of stuff is to simply not participate. When others start "bashing" on people in your Association, simply change the subject to a story about you. Or just walk away. Once people start letting others know that it isn't acceptable, people will stop doing it. It's a slow process, but I've seen it work.

+1

Control what you can control

dsqrddgd909 Wed Mar 30, 2011 04:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 745287)
easiest way to deal with this type of stuff is to simply not participate. When others start "bashing" on people in your association, simply change the subject to a story about you. Or just walk away. Once people start letting others know that it isn't acceptable, people will stop doing it. It's a slow process, but i've seen it work.

+1

JRutledge Wed Mar 30, 2011 04:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 745287)
Easiest way to deal with this type of stuff is to simply not participate. When others start "bashing" on people in your Association, simply change the subject to a story about you. Or just walk away. Once people start letting others know that it isn't acceptable, people will stop doing it. It's a slow process, but I've seen it work.

People will still do it, they just will not do it in your presence.

Peace

Judtech Wed Mar 30, 2011 04:49pm

:D
Quote:

Originally Posted by tref (Post 745275)
From my experiences both near & far, officials (for the most part) are the most gossipy, rumor spreading, school girl in the cafeteria bunch I have ever been associated with.

Can I get an AMEN!

rockyroad Wed Mar 30, 2011 04:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 745294)
People will still do it, they just will not do it in your presence.

Peace

Or in the presence of others who begin to emulate you...or in the presence of the others who begin to emulate them..and on and on.

Only takes one person to start a change.

JRutledge Wed Mar 30, 2011 05:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 745297)
Or in the presence of others who begin to emulate you...or in the presence of the others who begin to emulate them..and on and on.

Only takes one person to start a change.

I do not disagree with you that you can influence others, but that is just the nature of what we do and the competition of it. There are newer officials that come in and think they should be working the top games yesterday and will tell you about it. I almost always try to steer people away from those kinds of conversations but they still have them anyway. There are always going to be negative people that see something and try to nitpick it. We have people here that go crazy if an official does one little thing that is not "perfect" in the mechanics books or standard. Heck even here we cannot agree on how rules should be applied, so why would I expect people to think someone working a game is not going to come with negative comments from time to time. I am not saying I condone it; just do not believe we can ultimately do anything about it. You can change your little neck of the woods in a little way, but there will always be a contingent that are bitter and have negative things to say about others. Usually that is because most people do not like to look in the mirror and figure out why they have not achieved certain levels, but blame others or a system for their failures.

Peace

Jurassic Referee Wed Mar 30, 2011 05:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 745284)
I have been abused by several and it has hurt me very bad as I have been seeing some psy doctors and they put me on some medication. If I get better I might be at the NIT tomorrow with curtis, see you on the tube idiots

There's more to come, jake. You're now officially a running joke on this forum.

You've gone where few have gone before. You have attained Old School status here. :)

big jake Wed Mar 30, 2011 05:45pm

Not as big a joke as a bunch of idiots that fall for every post an idiot makes Ha Ha Ha................................................ ...................Got ya big dogs!

Judtech Wed Mar 30, 2011 05:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 745306)
Not as big a joke as a bunch of idiots that fall for every post an idiot makes Ha Ha Ha................................................ ...................Got ya big dogs!

So when do you arrive in Indianapolis?

big jake Wed Mar 30, 2011 05:52pm

Tonight at 6PM

grunewar Wed Mar 30, 2011 06:00pm

How So?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 745306)
Got ya big dogs!

Ya talked trash and got caught. I don't see a "gotcha" moment there.

Multiple Sports Wed Mar 30, 2011 06:08pm

Cardinal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 745267)
Are you in Northern VA? LOL

Bad News are you talking about guys that are in Cardinal or IAABO #12 ?????

big jake Wed Mar 30, 2011 06:41pm

I did not figure yall would get it, Curtis think it is very funny. Seyou in Johns room for the card game.

Judtech Wed Mar 30, 2011 07:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 745321)
I did not figure yall would get it, Curtis think it is very funny. Seyou in Johns room for the card game.

Why is he in Indianapolis and not Houston?:confused:

JRutledge Wed Mar 30, 2011 09:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 745321)
I did not figure yall would get it, Curtis think it is very funny. Seyou in Johns room for the card game.

You really involved Curtis Shaw in this? Really???

Peace

26 Year Gap Wed Mar 30, 2011 09:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 745353)
You really involved Curtis Shaw in this? Really???

Peace

Who do you think keeps erasing his posts?

Adam Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 745366)
Who do you think keeps erasing his posts?

Shaw has that power? Wow.

Mark Padgett Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 745321)
I did not figure yall would get it...

Please post in English.

APG Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 745375)
Please post in English.

Y'all (pronounced as one syllable (/ˈjɔːl/ yawl) or two (/ˈjuː.ɔːl/ <small>YEW</small>-awl)) is a contraction of the words "you" and "all". It is used as a plural second-person pronoun. Commonly believed to have originated in the Southern United States, it is primarily associated with Southern American English, African-American Vernacular English, and some dialects of the Western United States and the Midwestern United States.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference">[2]</sup> It is also found in the English-speaking islands of the West Indies.

JRutledge Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:53pm

This is why slang is used in many dictionaries too. :D

Peace

26 Year Gap Thu Mar 31, 2011 09:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 745383)
This is why slang is used in many dictionaries too. :D

Peace

He forgot the apostrophe. That is what confused everyone.

mbyron Thu Mar 31, 2011 09:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 745473)
He forgot the apostrophe. That is what confused everyone.

Or maybe misspelling 'yawl'?

big jake Thu Mar 31, 2011 09:45am

You guys need to find you a good woman to help you out with your problem! Can you find one???? I got 3 here with Curtis and John, we will be heading to Houston at about 3PM if you want a ride ,come on down! Ha HA HA...............

Raymond Thu Mar 31, 2011 09:47am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 745314)
Bad News are you talking about guys that are in Cardinal or IAABO #12 ?????

I think it's Cardinal, or whoever had all the AAU games at the complex up there.

Raymond Thu Mar 31, 2011 09:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 745478)
You guys need to find you a good woman to help you out with your problem! Can you find one???? I got 3 here with Curtis and John, we will be heading to Houston at about 3PM if you want a ride ,come on down! Ha HA HA...............

We need a life yet you come on here and don't post a single thing about real basketball. Those 3 women you got there must not be goddesses.

Adam Thu Mar 31, 2011 09:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 745482)
We need a life yet you come on here and don't post a single thing about real basketball. Those 3 women you got there must not be goddesses.

But they have tiger blood. And maybe even some cobra venom.

tref Thu Mar 31, 2011 09:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 745483)
But they have tiger blood. And maybe even some cobra venom.

Nevertheless, big jake is still WINNING! DuHH

Welpe Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:01am

Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 745478)
You guys need to find you a good woman to help you out with your problem! Can you find one???? I got 3 here with Curtis and John, we will be heading to Houston at about 3PM if you want a ride ,come on down! Ha HA HA...............

I thought you were going to Indy? You're a little confused, aren't you?

I'm sure Curtis is so proud that you troll officiating sites. Oh and since you haven't elaborated who this is, I'm assuming that Curtis is the guy that sells you LSD in bulk.

BI-WINNING!

Indianaref Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeb (Post 745263)
Hey guys...gals hows it going? I don't know if this is relevant in your association or organization but I cannot stand when other officials say how much better of an official they are than another. I am currently in a very large organization one of the biggest in the country from what I have heard and every game I go to there is just another "story" talked about either pre game/halftime/or post game. I know yes I do get a kick out of other people bragging about themselves getting to officiate a top high school team or something along those lines. But really am I the only one that gets told these things? It just annoys me to hear others bash the fellow officials. Especially if you have to work with this guy hs,rec,or whatever. I know it is offseason but by me there is a lot of work still going around with aau, adult leagues, rec ball, and anything in between! Anyway I can not be the only one in this situation!

Is your friend M&M in this organization? :D

JRutledge Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 745478)
You guys need to find you a good woman to help you out with your problem! Can you find one???? I got 3 here with Curtis and John, we will be heading to Houston at about 3PM if you want a ride ,come on down! Ha HA HA...............

Will all due respect we have had "confirmed" D1 officials who not only we know their name, we know what conferences they work. And those individuals either cut back on their talking on this site because they did not want to get into any trouble for what they say on a semi-social network. I know many people that are friends on FB and they never talk about their games or the people they work for or with directly. And you want us to believe that you are with Curtis Shaw and John Adams is hanging out with each other? OK, whatever you say? And people here need a woman?

Earlier you did not know who assigned the league and now you are hanging out with two people (one lives in Indy, but it hitching a ride with you). And something tells me that one of these individuals would not be likely hanging out with someone you claim to be based on things he has said openly. I will say this place is certainly entertaining.

Peace

Adam Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:56am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 745504)
I will say this place is certainly entertaining.

Maybe, but jakey ceased being entertaining a long time ago.

JRutledge Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:01am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 745514)
Maybe, but jakey ceased being entertaining a long time ago.

It is entertaining to me that a guy that did not know who assigned a league one minute now is riding with some pretty big guys for the Final Four. Sorry, but that is hilarious to me!!! It does not have to be funny to anyone else. :)

Peace

Jurassic Referee Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 745514)
Maybe, but jakey ceased being entertaining a long time ago.

Sad is a better description.

Adam Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 745515)
It is entertaining to me that a guy that did not know who assigned a league one minute now is riding with some pretty big guys for the Final Four. Sorry, but that is hilarious to me!!! It does not have to be funny to anyone else. :)

Peace

Who am I to judge? I've fed my share of trolls.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 745527)
Sad is a better description.

Agreed.

tref Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 745527)
Sad is a better description.

Depends on the area you are in :eek:

big jake Thu Mar 31, 2011 03:14pm

Got the 3 ladys from Charlie Harper, we are almost at the Texas state line, if you guys need any help just let me know.

Welpe Thu Mar 31, 2011 03:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 745592)
Got the 3 ladys from Charlie Harper, we are almost at the Texas state line, if you guys need any help just let me know.

Please feel free to tell me about what you think of Houston. I am just dying to know your thoughts.

Raymond Thu Mar 31, 2011 05:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 745592)
Got the 3 ladys from Charlie Harper, we are almost at the Texas state line, if you guys need any help just let me know.

Let us know when you want to talk about basketball and/or officiating.

Adam Thu Mar 31, 2011 05:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 745632)
Let us know when you want to talk about basketball and/or officiating.

Someone else will have to tell me.

Welpe Thu Mar 31, 2011 06:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 745633)
Someone else will have to tell me.

We'll just keep quoting him, you know, so you don't miss anything important.

grunewar Thu Mar 31, 2011 06:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 745639)
We'll just keep quoting him, you know, so you don't miss anything important.

It's called "Eagle Syndrome" for me! ;)

Judtech Thu Mar 31, 2011 08:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 745482)
We need a life yet you come on here and don't post a single thing about real basketball. Those 3 women you got there must not be goddesses.

or inflatable

26 Year Gap Thu Mar 31, 2011 09:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 745639)
We'll just keep quoting him, you know, so you don't miss anything important.

If he keeps deleting his posts, you won't have anything to quote anyway.

26 Year Gap Thu Mar 31, 2011 09:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 745658)
It's called "Eagle Syndrome" for me! ;)

Good thing Snaqs lets us know what is going on.

Raymond Fri Apr 01, 2011 07:47am

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 745726)
If he keeps deleting his posts, you won't have anything to quote anyway.

I think Curtis Shaw figured out his password and hacked his account to delete everything.

Rich Fri Apr 01, 2011 08:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 745594)
Please feel free to tell me about what you think of Houston. I am just dying to know your thoughts.

Ooh, ooh, I can do this one. I used to work for a Houston-based company.

APG Fri Apr 01, 2011 08:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 745594)
Please feel free to tell me about what you think of Houston. I am just dying to know your thoughts.

I'd also love to hear what he thinks about my hometown. :D

Jurassic Referee Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:27am

Sad.

just sad.

Bad Zebra Fri Apr 01, 2011 04:16pm

Today IS April Fool's Day. Maybe he's really a Big Joke.

mikeb Fri Apr 01, 2011 05:02pm

This has got out of hand... I dont even know what you all are talking about now lol. But I dont think anyone on here is in my organization.

Tio Fri Apr 01, 2011 05:57pm

There are many in the officiating avocation who seem to enjoy criticizing others. These officials tend to be insecure with how their career is progressing and find the need to pick everyone's game apart in order to make themself feel better about their lack of success, etc.

I choose NOT to associate myself with those indivdiuals. Just remember, it is easy to get all of your calls right from the stands. Not so easy when you are in the heat of battle.

Mark Padgett Fri Apr 01, 2011 06:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeb (Post 745972)
But I dont think anyone on here is in my organization.

And does youse belong to any organization in particular? :cool:

http://images.askmen.com/money/mafio...afia_small.jpg

mikeb Fri Apr 01, 2011 09:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 745988)
And does youse belong to any organization in particular? :cool:

http://images.askmen.com/money/mafio...afia_small.jpg

Haha found that somewhat amusing!


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