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Old Sat Mar 26, 2011, 09:19pm
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Close block charge play from the UK v. OSU game



Good job by the lead holding the preliminary signal.
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Old Sat Mar 26, 2011, 09:28pm
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I just want to comment on the plays put in thus far so my .02 cents can be on the record! ha

1st play- I have illegal screen. Just because you are pitching the ball off doesn't absolve you from being a screener. He "picks" the defensive player off and thwarts his freedom of movement.

2nd play- I have block. An extended leg is beyond his plane and therefore he was not in "position" to take the charge.

3rd play- I have a legal block. The only way I would have had a foul would have been if the follow thru was wayyyyy too much to ignore with the shot to the head after the block.. The "too much" is different to everyone.

4th play- Absolutely a block! Player slides over late.
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Old Sat Mar 26, 2011, 10:13pm
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Another close banger from the UK/OSU game:

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I just want to comment on the plays put in thus far so my .02 cents can be on the record! ha

1st play- I have illegal screen. Just because you are pitching the ball off doesn't absolve you from being a screener. He "picks" the defensive player off and thwarts his freedom of movement.

2nd play- I have block. An extended leg is beyond his plane and therefore he was not in "position" to take the charge.

3rd play- I have a legal block. The only way I would have had a foul would have been if the follow thru was wayyyyy too much to ignore with the shot to the head after the block.. The "too much" is different to everyone.

4th play- Absolutely a block! Player slides over late.
What would be more beneficial is to explain your call based on the posted NCAA rule elsewhere in this thread.
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Block and block on the last two.
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Old Sun Mar 27, 2011, 08:41am
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I have a foul for the blow to the head.
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+1

Incidental contact, ok, but this follow-through was a little heavy.

Big East: no call.
+1 on the Duke "block". You wouldn't allow that on a jump shot, so why allow it on a dunk attempt? Foul any day of the week for me.
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Old Sun Mar 27, 2011, 08:47am
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Close block charge play from the UK v. OSU game

YouTube - Block/Charge Play

Good job by the lead holding the preliminary signal.
Slot (O'Connell) got the call right but definitely not a good mechanic immediately going to his hips. He's gotta know the Lead (Ayers) is going to have a whistle on this play also.
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Old Sun Mar 27, 2011, 08:52am
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Another close banger from the UK/OSU game:

YouTube - Another Block Charge Play
50/50. Some angles it looks like he was there before A1 elevated and others (above the backboard) looks like he was there late.
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Old Sun Mar 27, 2011, 09:54am
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50/50. Some angles it looks like he was there before A1 elevated and others (above the backboard) looks like he was there late.
When in doubt...block or charge?
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What would be more beneficial is to explain your call based on the posted NCAA rule elsewhere in this thread.
The reason I didn't explain myself on the illegal screen play is bc there should have to be no explanation. That is an easy one imo. All screening principles are the same at all levels if I'm not mistaken... A player can be a screener whether he has the ball or not. If I am holding the ball and a player is gonna come around me like a normal screen and I'm going to pitch it off to him. I have to give a moving opponent time and distance I.e., the opportunity to stop and/or change his direction and if I pitch the ball and move into him, to the side to clip him, or just stick my butt out to thwart the moving defender then I have committed an illegal act. This seemed like an easy off. Foul call imo. The fact that it is being argued baffles me. Its not incidental contact when a player has virtually turned this play into a pitch and pick in which he does it obviously illegally.
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Old Sun Mar 27, 2011, 10:26am
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Block and block on the last two.
I have a block on both of them. Also in the second clip, the center did a great job of holding his preliminary (you can see he had a foul call if you view the camera from the endline). Two good examples of at least one official withholding his preliminary. No blarges here (and no JAR going on a one man crusades...we're all winners ).
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I have a block on both of them. Also in the second clip, the center did a great job of holding his preliminary (you can see he had a foul call if you view the camera from the endline). Two good examples of at least one official withholding his preliminary. No blarges here (and no JAR going on a one man crusades...we're all winners ).
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Old Sun Mar 27, 2011, 10:31am
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No I don't...not even for $36 I wouldn't.
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Old Sun Mar 27, 2011, 10:34am
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I have a block on both of them. Also in the second clip, the center did a great job of holding his preliminary (you can see he had a foul call if you view the camera from the endline). Two good examples of at least one official withholding his preliminary. No blarges here (and no JAR going on a one man crusades...we're all winners ).
Where is it written that any preliminary signal necessitates any call?


You brought it up.
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Old Sun Mar 27, 2011, 10:36am
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Where is it written that any preliminary signal necessitates any call?


You brought it up.
Instead of going on your one-man, never-going-to-win-it crusade, let's get your opinion on the plays posted in here.
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