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jophyal Wed Mar 23, 2011 02:17pm

inbound on endline, not UT vs. UA
 
When you are administering the inbounding of the ball at the endline and becoming new T... do you bounce, toss, or hand ball to player?

Adam Wed Mar 23, 2011 02:18pm

FC or BC endline? I'm assuing BC since you note 'new T.'

If so, I bounce.

26 Year Gap Wed Mar 23, 2011 02:23pm

It depends. Often, if there is a press set up, I will hand the ball to the player. Although, I see the advantages of bouncing. This is something I am working on, as I hand the ball to the player 100% of the time on the FC endline and 75% of the time elsewhere.

jophyal Wed Mar 23, 2011 02:24pm

Backcourt and lets make it interesting and assuming they are pressing full court and it is a tight game...

bob jenkins Wed Mar 23, 2011 02:25pm

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Originally Posted by jophyal (Post 742958)
When you are administering the inbounding of the ball at the endline and becoming new T... do you bounce, toss, or hand ball to player?

In IL, we (are supposed to) hand the ball.

So, if you're asking "what's the correct way?" (as opposed to just taking a poll to see what everyone does), you'll have to ask your state / local mechanics authority.

Adam Wed Mar 23, 2011 02:29pm

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Originally Posted by jophyal (Post 742964)
Backcourt and lets make it interesting and assuming they are pressing full court and it is a tight game...

If I'm not on the FC endline, I'm bouncing probably 90% of the time. A press doesn't really change that for me, as I'm going to want a wider angle anyway.

jophyal Wed Mar 23, 2011 02:35pm

Thanks Bob, just taking a poll... In TX we are instructed to hand the ball but I agree that bouncing opens me up to a better view, especially two man mechanics.

bainsey Wed Mar 23, 2011 02:49pm

If it's FC, I hand (never toss). If it's BC, I usually bounce, though handing is an option.

Raymond Wed Mar 23, 2011 04:15pm

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Originally Posted by jophyal (Post 742958)
When you are administering the inbounding of the ball at the endline and becoming new T... do you bounce, toss, or hand ball to player?

I bounce. Press or not. I will get close to tell player whether it's a designated or non-designated spot throw-in then then step away before I bounce the ball.

Welpe Wed Mar 23, 2011 04:34pm

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Originally Posted by jophyal (Post 742972)
Thanks Bob, just taking a poll... In TX we are instructed to hand the ball but I agree that bouncing opens me up to a better view, especially two man mechanics.

Where is this and by whom? We have been instructed to hand only for a FC end line throw in and bounce all other times.

Camron Rust Wed Mar 23, 2011 04:35pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 743015)
I bounce. Press or not. I will get close to tell player whether it's a designated or non-designated spot throw-in then then step away before I bounce the ball.

Same.

BktBallRef Wed Mar 23, 2011 07:56pm

We're instructed to hand the ball to the thrower on the endline in the FC and when there's pressure anywhere.

Why? I do not know. Does anyone else have a reason for handing the ball to the thrower, other than being instructed to?

zebraman Wed Mar 23, 2011 08:47pm

Like many other, I always hand on the endline in FC and always bounce on sidelines or the endline in BC

I want the wider vision every chance I get.

Zeb

Nevadaref Thu Mar 24, 2011 02:01am

On a designated spot throw-in, I'll hand the thrower the ball.

When it is following a goal and the privilege of running the end line is allowed, I'll bounce it to him so as to be out of his way.

JRutledge Thu Mar 24, 2011 02:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jophyal (Post 742972)
Thanks Bob, just taking a poll... In TX we are instructed to hand the ball but I agree that bouncing opens me up to a better view, especially two man mechanics.

We hand the ball because officials try to get ahead of the play when they bounce (2 or 3 Person).

Peace

GoodwillRef Thu Mar 24, 2011 05:31am

Always bounce.

bainsey Thu Mar 24, 2011 06:39am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 743091)
We're instructed to hand the ball to the thrower on the endline in the FC and when there's pressure anywhere.

Why? I do not know. Does anyone else have a reason for handing the ball to the thrower, other than being instructed to?

It was explained to me that someone performing a FC endline throw-in has enough to think about, let alone catching your bounce, so just hand it to them. That worked for me, so I've developed the habit around that.

Besides, the habit works in an extra way to me. If I bounce, it's an additional self-reminder that we're in the backcourt, and if I hand off, it's an extra reminder that we're in the frontcourt. It makes for an additional preparation tool for the next play.

jophyal Thu Mar 24, 2011 08:30am

I am in Austin Area and the reason we were given has already been stated. The player catching bounce/toss is not gauranteed to catch it and there have been cases where officials bounced the ball and started their 5 count before player had opportunity to inbound. Thanks for all your responses... Stay safe.

Welpe Thu Mar 24, 2011 08:54am

I ask because I am surprised that they are deviating from the Federation mechanics, which is what we are supposed to use with a few exceptions (this is not one of them). Not a big deal by any stretch but just surprising.

An official starting their count before the ball is at disposal is a rules and mechanics issue and should be addressed separately IMO.

Raymond Thu Mar 24, 2011 09:06am

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Originally Posted by jophyal (Post 743256)
I am in Austin Area and the reason we were given has already been stated. The player catching bounce/toss is not gauranteed to catch it and there have been cases where officials bounced the ball and started their 5 count before player had opportunity to inbound. Thanks for all your responses... Stay safe.


Sounds like a training issue.

fullor30 Thu Mar 24, 2011 09:06am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 743160)
On a designated spot throw-in, I'll hand the thrower the ball.

When it is following a goal and the privilege of running the end line is allowed, I'll bounce it to him so as to be out of his way.

Assuming of course there is a stoppage of play after the goal.

tref Thu Mar 24, 2011 09:10am

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 743267)
Assuming of course there is a stoppage of play after the goal.

Or a player from the scoring team catches it out of the net & passes it to you...

BillyMac Thu Mar 24, 2011 04:52pm

Words To The Wise ...
 
Bounce when you can, hand when you must.

Judtech Thu Mar 24, 2011 05:11pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 743438)
Bounce when you can, hand when you must.

+1 but I am not sure about the "wise" part, unless there was a word after it!

BillyMac Thu Mar 24, 2011 05:13pm

Hit Submit Reply Too Soon ...
 
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Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 743447)
+1 but I am not sure about the "wise" part, unless there was a word after it!

Guys. Words to the wise guys.


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