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Old Wed Dec 11, 2002, 04:47pm
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Another mixed area for me again. What is the difference between a flagarant and an intentional foul. I thought these two were the same. Also, is the outcome of either one of these result in 2 shots and the ball at mid court...
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Old Wed Dec 11, 2002, 04:54pm
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An intentional foul is one where the fouling player is not really playing the ball. The penalty is 2 shots and possession. A flagrant foul may be intentional and is usually called when the contact is excessive. Penalty is 2 shots,possession, and ejection of the player.

When either of these fouls occur dueing a live ball situation they would be personal fouls. If the ball is dead, then they would be technical fouls.

In personal fouls possession would be at the spot nearest the ball. In technical fouls possession is at the division line opposite the table.

Remember that once you use the word "flagrant" you must eject the offending player.
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Old Wed Dec 11, 2002, 04:54pm
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In HS, paraphrased,
an intentional is just that, intentional, mostly called when the player is not making an attempt towards the ball or when the contact is exceptionally hard. Not that it has to involve rough contact, it does not, but that is often how it is called. the penalty for an intentional foul is two shots and the ball at the point of interruption.

A flagrant foul must involve contact deemed serious/dangerous by the official. A blatant act or one that involves the safety of a player. The penalty for this is two shots, the ball at the point of interruption, and the offender is disqualified from the contest.

Only a technical foul involves two shots and the ball at halfcourt.
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Old Wed Dec 11, 2002, 06:49pm
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And.... if the offensive player is shooting

and an intentional foul is committed.... and the shot is good...

The offensive player gets the points, STILL GETS TWO SHOTS for the intentional foul (even if it was a 3-point try), and gets the ball at OOB nearest the point of the foul!

Could be a 5-point play and the ball (which could result in another 3 points).

Yowza! that's an expensive foul.

To expand on the definition of intentional foul 4-19 "a foul designed to stop or keep the clock from starting, to neutralize an opponent's obvious advantageous position [like a foul from behind]... is not based on the severity of the act. [However] A foul also shall be ruled intentional if while playing the ball a player causes excessive contact with an opponent."

I don't see any latitude in the penalty for an intentional foul dependent upon whether the shot is good or not (Summary of penalties for all Fouls, page 64 #4)- the penalty is always two shots and the ball.
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Old Wed Dec 11, 2002, 07:05pm
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Re: Shooter

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Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
I don't see any latitude in the penalty for an intentional foul dependent upon whether the shot is good or not (Summary of penalties for all Fouls, page 64 #4)- the penalty is always two shots and the ball.
Not always!See page 64 #5b plus note after it--3 FT's for an intentional on a missed 3 point try or tap.
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