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No, no, no . . .

Don't you remember the case where the coach sued for getting a T, and the case went all the way up to the Supreme Court, which affirmed the T by a 5-4 vote, with 7 different opinions? Don't they teach that one in the clinics you go to? ;)

Speaking as a coach and fan who has been known to "get a little excited", I want you to know I appreciate the effort you folks put forth, even though I may not always show it during games. I really don't know how you put up with some of the abuse you get. Frankly, I couldn't do it.

Maybe that's the answer - any coach or fan who is removed from a game should have to referee a game played and coached by two teams of officials.

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Originally posted by theboys
Speaking as a coach and fan who has been known to "get a little excited", I want you to know I appreciate the effort you folks put forth, even though I may not always show it during games. I really don't know how you put up with some of the abuse you get. Frankly, I couldn't do it.

Maybe that's the answer - any coach or fan who is removed from a game should have to referee a game played and coached by two teams of officials.

I like it.

I was talking to a game administrator last night after my game and during the last game of the night, and he said he'd found the perfect official.... always in the right spot, always makes the right calls, always has great game management, etc. BUT could never get them to come out of the stands

:D

Re: I really like...

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Originally posted by JThompson
...the "And May God Bless You Too" comment. I'll use that next time!
One thing I am trying to get a handle of, though, is when is it appropriate to "T" a coach. The games I have worked so far, coaches knew that I was 'inexperienced' due to the fact that they had not seen me before. They tried to work me, but I politely would show them the stop sign and say 'we've got it under control'.

A couple of people have told me that if a coach starts a sentence with 'you', they are begging for a "T". I just want to find that line that coaches cannot cross, which again, will come with time and experience. John

you will find your own "line" with experience. In the questionable situations, where the coach is just chipping away, not saying any one thing really offensive, but just at you constantly, observe that coach's team. How are they playing? Passing wild? Missing easy lay-ups? Lots of stupid fouls? Often when a coach gets emotional, and is taking it out on you, the players are picking up the emotions and losing control. There is also a shift of responsibility from the coach and players to the refs. If you T the coach, even though nothing really awful was said, it's actulaly a benefit (sometimes). The coach will have to settle down, and all of a sudden, the players smooth out and begin to catch up and play basketball. In fact, I have seen teams that were 15 points behind, come back and win, after the coach started coaching again instead of reffing. Once a coach even thanked me for throwing him a T. So don't wait too long, don't take too much, but do be circumspect. Think about what you are doing. Choose to T, rather than blowing up, and you'll begin to get the hang of it.

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Originally posted by rainmaker

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Originally posted by JThompson
...the "And May God Bless You Too" comment. I'll use that next time!
One thing I am trying to get a handle of, though, is when is it appropriate to "T" a coach. The games I have worked so far, coaches knew that I was 'inexperienced' due to the fact that they had not seen me before. They tried to work me, but I politely would show them the stop sign and say 'we've got it under control'.

A couple of people have told me that if a coach starts a sentence with 'you', they are begging for a "T". I just want to find that line that coaches cannot cross, which again, will come with time and experience. John

you will find your own "line" with experience. In the questionable situations, where the coach is just chipping away, not saying any one thing really offensive, but just at you constantly, observe that coach's team. How are they playing? Passing wild? Missing easy lay-ups? Lots of stupid fouls? Often when a coach gets emotional, and is taking it out on you, the players are picking up the emotions and losing control. There is also a shift of responsibility from the coach and players to the refs. If you T the coach, even though nothing really awful was said, it's actulaly a benefit (sometimes). The coach will have to settle down, and all of a sudden, the players smooth out and begin to catch up and play basketball. In fact, I have seen teams that were 15 points behind, come back and win, after the coach started coaching again instead of reffing. Once a coach even thanked me for throwing him a T. So don't wait too long, don't take too much, but do be circumspect. Think about what you are doing. Choose to T, rather than blowing up, and you'll begin to get the hang of it.

Excellent advice Juulie, ... now if I could just resemble that remark. :D